Labour MP's harassment

If you mean 3rd shepherd from the left then yes, they are the star of the show, along with 6th donkey from the right, I hope you acknowledge Ann60

We didn't have donkeys today only camels for the Kings, and for reasons not explained there were only two shepherds and Bobby was the one on the right. I do have photographs to prove my boast but I don't know how to post them as I took them on my tablet

think-left.org/2015/10/24/why-everything-is-now-different-the-sneerage-coefficient-is-off-the-scale/

Labour MPs being harassed by the media.

They would be, class war is as strong as ever

Whatever anyone on here may think, I am not a boxer!

First angel, speaking part this year (not me, DGD!). Not yet performed, I await with bated breath.

2nd King for GS3 tomorrow [proud nana emoticon] though I suppose first Angel (speaking) deserves credit too roses .

Sorry Ann60 we demand you post pictures as proof.

No class war, though it was touch and go when a camel barged our donkey!

In that article, dj, it seemed to me that a large proportion of the people who are said to be sneering at Corbyn and Corbynites are Labour Party members. It's not just the media. Much of the criticism I've read of Corbyn has been by Labour Party members and supporters. Personally, I find that more worrying and more convincing than media hype.

I have respect for Corbyn's sincerity and much of his philosophy. Unfortunately this doesn't make him a leader or a statesman.

Ghandi did ok as a leader

It is too soon to judge his leadership yet, so I have no intention of trying to do so. It is early days - he has hardly got his feet under the desk. He has taken over at a time when big international decisions are being made, and he will have to get the whole party to work together quickly and then to continue to work together once the emergency and the honeymoon period are over and it gets more humdrum. Not an easy task for any leader of an opposition party - or indeed of a party in power, either. Most of them look very tired after a while.

I'm not sure that comparing JC with Ghandi is the way to go. JC has spent 30 odd years in the Labour party but opposing the leadership for much of that time. I accept that there is a valid argument that if more Labour MP's had voted against the leadership, we may have had a Labour party that reflected its core supporters more effectively. That acceptance doesn't mean I'm a convert to the Corbyn approach, especially when it comes to organisations like STWC.

Like Anya, I respect Corbyn's sincerity and much of his philosophy. I don't see him as a leader and I certainly don't see him as a Ghandi like inspirational leader. If he had those qualities, they'd have been in plain sight long before JC hit his 66th birthday frankly and they simply were not, and are not.

I do understand the way Nativity Plays and grandchildren are providing a bit of light relief in this depressing thread. I've found myself watching the news from the Middle East and wishing it was as simple as making a shepherd's outfit from a towel and a tea towel and frocking an angel up in tinsel wings and a white floaty frock made from an old sheet. But it isn't. We're living in interesting times and I fear the Chinese curse

stopwar.org.uk/index.php/news/it-is-the-war-party-that-has-a-reputation-problem-not-stop-the-war

You obviously only read part of the article, bags. Not surprising, really.

I'm sure there are some genuine people in the STWC, ie.Pacifists, however there are also a mixture of bullies and loony tunes.

Of course some genuine people will be involved in STWC. A number of my pals have recently left the organisation because of the ridiculous line taken about the International Brigade and what seems like minimisation and denial that Daesh/IS is a murderous entity which no one with a grasp of history could possibly support.

Anya I am truly such a technophobe ( I am very old and decrepit after all) that I don't know how to send a photograph from my new Kindle fire, but he really was outstanding
I really have disrailed this thread, and do I care....

I compared Corbyns sincerity and philosophy with Ghandi ,

You don't need to convince me Iam64 I am already convinced that STWC are a group to give a wide berth to.Corbyn should distance himself from them and condemn some of what they say.If he doesn't , then I'm not so sure of how 'pleasant' he actually is, hmmn.

I will see if this works, all fingers crossed!!

You are mistaken in your conclusion about my reading, dj. Please address the issue instead of sneering. Your recommendation of that article suggested to me that you don't approve of sneering, but perhaps that pnly applies to other people's sneering.

Check the eighth paragraph of the article where it says most of the people at a certain meeting were on the right of the Party.

Awww! how sweet is that?

That was to annesixty of course.

Lovely Ann

You still havent

Corbyn ain't no Gandhi!