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Donald J Trump

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lynnie1 Fri 25-Mar-16 22:48:17

Is he a threat ? How do you feel about him? Do you agree with his dogma ?

Alea Fri 25-Mar-16 22:50:00

Oh Lynnie watch out for your blood pressure!! smile
I think we have had a few threads about him, but he hasn't taken any notice sad

lynnie1 Fri 25-Mar-16 22:58:51

Ha OK... My blood pressure is always good :;)

Daddima Sat 26-Mar-16 06:40:52

I watched him being interviewed by Piers Morgan. He didn't answer a single question, just a lot of words, but saying nothing, except he was going to " make America great again", and keep out Muslims and Mexicans.
Piers gave him a very easy ride.

obieone Sat 26-Mar-16 06:46:45

Himself and Ted Cruz are anti the current Republican party and are winning with Republican voters.

Ironically, Hillary Clinton is very part of the Democratic Party establishment.

Too early in the morning for me to think exactly where I was going with this post.

obieone Sat 26-Mar-16 06:52:11

I suppose what I am saying is that Donald J Trump is actually only winning with disgruntled Republican voters.

Plus what I am trying to say is that the Democratic Party are happy with where they are, policy wise, but Republicans are far from happy with their party.

Now, when the whole country votes[I dont know their exact voting system for that] they may just decide to vote for a what they all ready know, a middle of the road Democrat.

I suppose it ultimately depends on how many Democrats are also fed up with the illegal immigrant situation they have over there.

whitewave Sat 26-Mar-16 07:11:33

I have read a wee bit about this. Voters in US are as Fed up with their politicians as they are here and Europe. Trump is attracting the working class white vote, and the Republican Party is beginning to get a tad alarmed as he is seen as a lose cañnon. He will probably get the nomination but not the presidency - hopefully with everything crossed.

lynnie1 Sat 26-Mar-16 07:33:22

Yes, I was watching the Piers Morgan interview last night too. His accruing popularity is actually quite terrifying.

ninathenana Sat 26-Mar-16 07:59:12

The man is an a**e and very scary

Anniebach Sat 26-Mar-16 08:17:23

America has always been a country of racism, he is playing the two cards the white Americans love, Racism and We Run The World

Welshwife Sat 26-Mar-16 08:34:09

The voting system over there for the presidential elections seems to be nothing like anything we have. I looked into it a few years ago - in this round of elections - the Primaries - you need to register with a party to vote and you vote for whichever candidate you wish in that party - only if you register and vote in this round can you vote in the big one in November. The candidates for each party are chosen in this first round and confirmed in the summer at a rally. For the Nov election you can, it seems, vote for whichever party you wish. All very complicated.
Spoke to DS about Trump last week as he has lived in U.S. For almost 20 years - he says it seems to be that if a party do not really wish to actually WIN the Presidential election they put up an unelectable candidate rather than just throw in the towel. That is what he is hearing from his friends and acquaintances - sounds a dangerous game if that is true.
I did not see the interview last night but cannot understand how such a person has got so far and seems to have huge support. But people are odd - when Obama was working on getting through his health reforms DS said that he agreed with what Obama was trying to do and it would be so much better for the poorer people - but he said it was the people which it would help the most who were the biggest opponents - something he and DiL could not fathom at all.

LullyDully Sat 26-Mar-16 08:42:36

I was convinced he didn't stand a cat's chance in hell of nomination , once the big players got going. However I am starting to worry now as the world is looking more dangerous very day.

Welshwife Sat 26-Mar-16 08:50:56

Lully how true that is - I also thought he was just a bit of distraction initially but now worry. - I have not seen anything about Sarah Palin for a while - is she still about?

Maggiemaybe Sat 26-Mar-16 09:08:13

There's an interesting video doing the rounds on Facebook, contrasting the way President Obama talks about women and the way Trump does. How can this man be a serious contender for any position of authority, let alone POTUS? shock

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/video-compares-trump-and-obama-talking-about-women-and-we-cant-stop-crying_us_56f29d0ce4b0c3ef52174a7b

sunseeker Sat 26-Mar-16 09:26:06

IF Trump does get elected (and I sincerely hope he doesn't) I do take a little comfort from the fact that many of his extreme ideas will not get past Congress and the Senate. I know little of USA politics but I don't think he would be able to enforce a policy without the backing of the two houses.

granjura Sat 26-Mar-16 10:21:01

Thanks for that maggiemaybe - clear as a bell as to what each expects for and from women.

varian Sat 26-Mar-16 10:34:14

Trump is the epitome of lowest common denominator populism, attracting votes by encouraging a sense of grievance and blaming others - in his case Mexicans, Muslims, etc.

This ploy can attract a worryingly high level of support, especially if backed by money and significant parts of the media. We have seen it happen in the UK with the rise of the SNP and it could also result in UKIP persuading enough British voters to back Brexit.

Unfortunately you can fool quite a lot of the people for quite a lot of the time and everyone else will then suffer the consequences.

whitewave Sat 26-Mar-16 10:36:58

I think this is a totally hypothetical question as he wont get in[ hmm] but does anyone know if the US president can take military action without congress or senate approval?

obieone Tue 29-Mar-16 06:17:21

If you google "can the President act alone?", it appears they can, though I havent properly looked into it. Certainly Pres Obama got ready to do it.

Anya Tue 29-Mar-16 08:21:56

The fact that he will almost certainly win the Republican nomination and stand against Hilary Clinton is frightening. This politics of hate brought Hitler to power. I'm hopeful that those in the Republican Party who cannot stand him will vote tactically...confused

GillT57 Tue 29-Mar-16 09:13:05

My otherwise intelligent and well educated cousin and her husband, living in US for 20 years are going to vote for him. They are not disaffected poor, living in a trailer park ( quite the opposite), or working in dying blue collar industries which is supposed to be the classic Trump voter. now that scares me.

durhamjen Tue 29-Mar-16 10:01:04

Both houses are republican anyway, which is why Obama has not been able to do everything he promised.
Being the figurehead he gets blamed for not doing things.
It's as if we had Cameron but with a Labour majority in both houses.

At least the US get to vote for their president, even if it is in a convoluted way.
I read a n article about Ted Cruz, in which it stated that he is scarier than Trump. So hopefully Trump will be the republican candidate, and the US will then wake up and vote for Clinton. It's time they had a female president.

obieone Tue 29-Mar-16 10:01:20

Why GillT57?

Anya, not allowing democracy is a worse idea. That is why there are these problems in the first place.
Immigration is too big an issue to not have a vote on really.

GillT57 Tue 29-Mar-16 11:15:41

What do you mean why Obieone? I was only stating that they are not the classic disaffected Trump voter, and this is more worrying because they are intelligent enough to not support his policies. Like many, they are voting for him because they dislike Hilary Clinton, they see her as deceitful and a bit economic with the truth.

obieone Tue 29-Mar-16 11:30:36

Are they Republicans, if you dont mind me asking? Or would they normally vote for the Democrats?