We should think of Jo at the ballot box

Of course they are, jingl. I'm voting to stay in, but I'm not daft enough to tar all outers with the same brush. There are good arguments on both sides.

that thread

Yes there are maggiemaybe, and that's what makes it so hard for a lot of people.

I'm shaking with fury and holding back the tears at the comments on this thread. The Brexit campaign have used a poster that parodies Nazi propaganda and yet you disassociate it from right wing groups 'She was killed by a mentally-ill man, with, it would appear, connections to an extreme right wing facist group. No such group is being represented at the ballot box next week. Thank goodness'.

It's really not worth getting that het up over! It's only Gransnet for goodness sake!

I mean the comments on here! Cry about a lovely young woman's cruel and unnecessary death by all means.

Anniebach, thank you. Of course not all leavers are extremists, but we are deluded if we believe that the denigration of expert individuals and institutions on the economy, the misrepresentations on costs, the denials of our role in EU decision making and the constant distorted perceptions of the freemovent of European citizens, the blaming of others, are the techniques of fascism, Look art the evil propaganda on Farage's bus. I cannot see the differencein principle between UKIP's arguments and those right-populist arguments of the 1930's. in Germany

I hope i would not have bought the blame story then.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/17/mainstream-politicians-clueless-on-how-to-deal-with-migration-debate-says-jo-coxs-husband?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=177978&subid=15991821&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

sorry mistype

should have said:
Anniebach, thank you. Of course not all leavers are extremists, but we are deluded if we believe that the denigration of expert individuals and institutions on the economy, the misrepresentations on costs, the denials of our role in EU decision making and the constant distorted perceptions of the freemovent of European citizens, the blaming of others, are not the techniques of fascism. They are the techniques of fascism. Look at the evil propaganda on Farage's bus. I cannot see the differencein principle between UKIP's arguments and those right-populist arguments of the 1930's. in Germany

I hope i would not have bought the blame story then. I have hope, maybe forlorn, that my fellow citizens will choose not to buy it, or be associated with it now

Wow Anniebach! That insulting and thoughtless post must take the lead as the most crass remark of the day.

davfef Would one of those experts be Mark Carney who is a Goldman Sachs man, as are others in the Bank of England.

I think it's only someone with extreme views (right or left doesn't matter; the two meet in their intolerance anyway) who could say that if some members or supporters of the Labour Party are anti-semitic (I'm not arguing here that they are or aren't) then Brexit voters are racists. It isn't logical, nor likely. Some people just like saying nasty things.

Perhaps they think nastiness wins arguments. You have to feel sorry for them really.

In the circumstances, I think that this thread, with its inevitable political content is completely inappropriate. And that's all I have to say on the matter.

davre

There is another thread where the roots and consequences of this terrible act are discussed. Posting there instead of here does not imply that on here they are being ignored or tolerated, only that the thread is about mourning, not analysing.

Davref, thank you for you constructive comments, the sheer prejudices, untruths and sheer hypocrisy expressed by some contributors is getting to me. We were once a tolerant decent society that used to lead by setting good examples. The Farage UKIP and many Out campaigners with the lies and distorted stories are changing us into an uncaring society, yet I still note they are still trying to jusify many of their prejudices.

Grandaughter et al. Maybe you're right. I shall vote to stay in purely for personal financial reasons. And that's all I'll be thinking of at the ballot box.

Well said Granddaughter

Ceesnan, when I have time I will look through the the anti semitism thread in the hope I will find you stating those who accused me of being anti semetic are insulting, thoughtless and crass

I thought that I had tried to take an informed (at least as informed as is possible) choice re the referendum. I am concerned about a lot of things that I perceive to be against our interests here in Britain. Have you heard about the agricultural trade deal that the EU are trying to make with the US?
I still think that I will vote next week in accordance with my beliefs. I am a little perplexed that according to you , Anniebach, that makes me some kind of monster.

Pamela, monster is your choice of word not mine

Oh come on Anniebach! Are you really saying "I was called xxxx on one thead, so that gives me the right to do the same thing on another"? That is childish in the extreme, and certainly not worthy on such an emotive subject. You must have realised it was provocative.

I don't know where the anti Semitic thread is, what was the title?

Ceesnan, I am not claiming I can say it because I have a right, I say it because I believe it,just as you believe I am thoughtless , insulting and crass , your opinion - my opinion