We should think of Jo at the ballot box

Think of her the day before as well, jingl. It would have been her 42nd birthday.
The fund in her name has raised over a million pounds in three days. All going to stop hatred and fighting, and help people harmed by it.

Why do you think I have already voted durhamjen? I have not. And since you have mentioned that at least twice to me, not at all sure why it bothers you so much either way?

And if you think I would vote in to ensure that there is not an EU army, well words fail me for once. That really takes the biscuit.

infacts.org/mythbusts/uk-wont-dragged-eu-army/

If you read this carefully, you will see that the way to ensure there is no EU army is to stay in. So you've voted the wrong way, obieone.

I will think of her at the ballot box. It won't affect the way I vote, but I will definitely think of her, and the fact that she did not live to see the day or the result.

You think a Field Marshall just goes around guessing. Yeah right. And other military people too? Oh well. End of conversation yet again.

dj, if you look a lot more carefully at your post of 2053pm, and mine straight after of 21.13pm, you will see I am querying your statement of "Whether we are in or out, there is not going to be an EU army. That's just another scare story dreamt up by the Brexiters.
It's scary UKIP fantasy."

It is tedious to have to make sure that posters have got the right end of the stick, or it is pointed out the right end of the stick, so that diversions and faux misunderstandings do not occur, but do it we must.

#rollonfriday

He doesn't know, though, obieone. He is just guessing.

Obieone I had already put the link up from fullfacts, which you obviou sly do not believe. I do not need to find any more facts to support my fact. There is not going to be an EU army because if we are in we have a veto. Okay?

Is there suppose to be a EU navy in the pipe line which is causing the admiltary concern? What surprises me is some who have supported Cameron now think him I liar

Anniebach, it is not about his talent, of which I would assume he is very talented. Or his intelligence, of which I assume he is highly intelligent!
It is about his knowledge!!

This field marshall was one of the ones who signed to remain a few months ago. There were forty of them. He's changed his mind. There are another 39 who disagree with him.
I'll believe the majority.

You must have looked it up by now, and are ready to find holes. And probably you have found or been given information about it to say against it. Here goes.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/17/field-marshal-lord-guthrie-why-i-now-back-the-leave-campaign/

No obieone, I just post my opinions and speak the truth , this bothers a certain few. No I do not know more than a field marshal but I do know a high rank does not equal talent or intelligence in every case. Read history of the wars

Go on then, obieone, provide your link.

Yes, djen said so!

And Anniebach, you surely are not going to try and say you know more than a Field Marshall?
Yes, I know your words will have covered you somehow. I sometimes think you pass them through some sort of legal and literary people first, to make sure they dont have holes in them anywhere, ever.

Field Marshalls know all and are always right? I think not

Funny, that obieone
I was chatting to a very high-up in the Admiralty the other week and he was concerned too.

But don't worry, it's just a scare story, djen said so.

Field Marshal Lord Guthrie disagrees with you durhamjen.
I think he knows a thing or two. I can provide a link!

Whether we are in or out, there is not going to be an EU army. That's just another scare story dreamt up by the Brexiters.
It's scary UKIP fantasy.

fullfact.org/europe/hunt-eu-army/

My point was that however much it is compared to what is being spent now it would not be a great deal more - to an individual yes but not when shared round all the hospitals etc.

EU army, now that is a thought. Have you considered if they create an EU army your GC will be conscripted ? An army would have to very, very large and some countries still have compulsory conscription, and girls would not be exempt either.

Obieone is right Welshwife,it is a colossal amount of money.

My income on a government pi chart would barely be visible,but in REAL TERMS,it matters.

There might be wobbles short term, not the same as medium or long term at all.
How much do you think an EU army would cost, and goodness knows what else they may dream up in the days and years going forward!

There might not be any 'new' money - that's the problem!

We've already seen a run on the pound and the government is likely to have to inject money into the economy with quantitative easing to avoid inflation.

In the long term, if financial services and foreign businesses do go abroad (which is highly likely), our balance of payments will be affected and we could end up with LESS money.

Tell that to people who work for Government services. I cant think what the figures are as regards how many new hospitals it equates to. Though obviously there is no guarantee where the new money could go to after friday.