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Undecideds - have you decided?

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kittylester Thu 23-Jun-16 07:48:58

I think I'm going for 'Remain' but I'm still not definite.confused

notyetagran Thu 23-Jun-16 15:26:08

Pamish, I am already facing a fracking company on my doorstep backed by one of the Conservative MPs urging me to vote, "Remain". As far as I'm concerned, that's another good reason not to follow his lead. He promised to represent the people of his constituancy at Westminster and not to represent Westminster within his constinuancy. He was a lying toad over that so I have no reason to trust him on anything else.

Skweek1 Thu 23-Jun-16 15:29:25

Postal voter so voted ages ago, but remain wondering if I ticked the right box. I just hope and pray whichever side comes out on top will prove best for Britain. However, I am scared stiff that if Brexit wins, Dave Chameleon will be kicked out in favour of Bojo the Clown.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 15:31:30

And me sky

kittylester Thu 23-Jun-16 15:33:52

casawan, your post was totally uncalled for.

hopeful1 Thu 23-Jun-16 15:34:55

Thank you Wilma. A simple solution to a lot of words. I may brave the weather yet!!

TizzMee Thu 23-Jun-16 15:42:28

I'm out. I believe other countries will follow suit.

Evenstar Thu 23-Jun-16 15:43:54

Have voted leave. Someone said to me 'Imagine if you were being asked to vote on whether to join the EU or not' That decided me.

Jane10 Thu 23-Jun-16 15:46:05

The European Social Fund does indeed fund a host of charities and vital services that the local authority and tax payer does not. We would miss this sorely!

SandyD Thu 23-Jun-16 16:15:50

I have already voted Leave. I have never had any doubts. From the very first time Cameron said he would offer a referendum, I knew what my vote would be - Leave. No contest.

anne53 Thu 23-Jun-16 16:53:10

Always been a remain.
However, my brother in law is in hospital after a stroke and two of the nurses said they weren't going to bother voting. He gave them a stern lecture about people having given their lives in order that they might have the vote. They said " consider ourselves told off!" And promised to go and vote after work. I wonder if they did - and which way they voted.

Ruth1958 Thu 23-Jun-16 16:58:59

I voted Leave. Sick of the EU and small minded insular view. Not only that they are undemocratic

spanishsue Thu 23-Jun-16 17:02:25

Indiana................ But if this situation arises again, surely it will need another referendum, or do you think the Government will just go ahead and leave? Surely it will be the same arguments?

josiew Thu 23-Jun-16 17:17:42

I agree with Rosina completely

, that is why I have voted OUT. All my friends and family have as well.

kittylester Thu 23-Jun-16 17:22:24

I've voted!! grin

mutti Thu 23-Jun-16 17:29:14

The point in the post by Indinana on the first page of this thread is from Scientists for the EU. The essence is that a vote to leave is a vote for ever whereas if we vote to Remain and find that it isn't possible to bring reform to the institution, we could always leave at a later date. Remain is much the safer choice and allows us to try to reform the EU from the inside; having been shaken by the threat of the UK leaving, many EU countries would be receptive to reforms which would be in their interests as well.

mutti Thu 23-Jun-16 17:35:57

Parish makes the same sensible point too on page 5 of this thread .. about how you should vote Remain if you're undecided, as it it not an irrevocable decision .. as a vote to leave would be.

GillC Thu 23-Jun-16 17:55:10

I voted out, my husband voted remain. Waste of time going to vote really, as a couple we cancelled each other out.

I don't think I will divorce him though. grin

cookie1070 Thu 23-Jun-16 18:01:03

l,ve voted out because l fear for the future if we stay in. We cant afford housing for people who have lived and worked here all their lives. lts taking longer and longer to get a doctors appointment and our local schools are overcrowded. l cant see the situation changing in the near future. What lies ahead for our grandchildren.

petra Thu 23-Jun-16 18:11:19

One bonus of Brexit. We will get through the airport quicker.

granjura Thu 23-Jun-16 18:23:56

cookie1070- these are indeed problematic, but are entirely choices made by the current and previous governments. How sold and stopped building Council Houses for instance. Why is the UK using a much smaller % of GDP for healthcare and education as most other EU countries? These are political choices which have little to do with immigration.

Cathy04 Thu 23-Jun-16 18:34:36

I voted to leave.

The main reason is because I don't want to live in a federal Europe. When we voted to join The Common Market I thought we were joining a trading group. Now we are part of an Empire.

History shows that empires expand, oppress their people and then crumble.

As for voting Remain because then we 'may' at some point in the future be able to leave seems ridiculous. If you want to stay in vote remain, want to leave vote leave, if you don't know by now perhaps it is better you don't vote. Although I don't advocate not voting because people have died for the right to vote.

petra Thu 23-Jun-16 18:35:50

granjura lots of people know that. But they would argue that the amount of immigration hasn't helped an already bad situation.

durhamjen Thu 23-Jun-16 18:51:48

K8tie, I haven't had emails about hate, but definitely about remain being about love.
It's to do with Jo Cox.
If you have given any money to her HopenotHate, RVS or whitehelmets campaign, you will have had one today, probably.
I've had a few.
It's strange how people see things differently.
Sorry if anyone else has said this, but I haven't read through all the posts.

durhamjen Thu 23-Jun-16 18:55:36

"I voted Leave. Sick of the EU and small minded insular view."

Sorry, ruth, I do understand that.
What does the word insular mean to you?
The EU isn't an island. The UK is. You do not like an insular view so you are going to vote to become more insular?

durhamjen Thu 23-Jun-16 18:56:23

Come on, kitty. Which way?