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Ok, we are out, what now?

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Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 07:49:53

The vote is in, we are to leave the EU. Deep breath, everyone, a new start begins today.

What needs to be done now? No recriminations allowed, no ranting, please. Constructive ideas only for what steps we should take now - we meaning the government, the legal bods, the negotiators, the banks, large and small busineeses, social departments, and orfinary people?

Bear in mind that it will take two years to settle the divorce details, then we have to begin creating a new relationship with the single market of the EU, if we are to buy and sell anything with them, after which new partners might will want to negotiate deals with us. Time scale unknown, but likely to take years. They could be lean years, our credit rating has gone down instantly, and our £ notes won't buy as much abroad at the moment. Better get a taste for British-grown food.

Meanwhile through and after the divorce we have to feed the children (without any alimony, just on our own efforts, and without the inlaws helping us to get orders any more)

The au pairs and the chars will soon go home, which means we'll have to do things ourselves which we used to let them do - look after our aged relations, nurse us after operations, and so on. On the plus side, that should mean we will be needed in those jobs, if we want them.

Alice16 Mon 27-Jun-16 15:17:48

If a poem doesn't appear here then I have failed to copy and paste. Will try again if so.

whitewave Mon 27-Jun-16 15:24:11

That would be funny alice if it wasn't so true and worrying

obieone Mon 27-Jun-16 15:36:18

Elegran, I haven'ta clue what the Sun said. I never read it.

The ones who were clarified were not the ones who were going to change their minds! That is crun's and my point.

I dont think understanding will come, which is to some other peoples' benefit.

durhamjen Mon 27-Jun-16 15:47:12

Anya, you do not have to be an EU citizen to vote on it, just have UK residency or be a British citizen.

You can be a UK resident without having EU citizenship.

Alea Mon 27-Jun-16 15:57:59

Icouldn't believe it on here that talking for hours about listening to a 25 minute, was the way they thought would persuade people who didn't know how to vote, to vote remain, in the days right before the referendum vote. Or even getting me to listen to it all. What good was that supposed to do?

The point about listening to someone who is impartial and knows something about what he is talking about, is that he stated quite clearly much of what is coming to light now, e.g. Free movement of labour being the price for being part of the free trade area, the "lie" of the £350k a week being freed up for the NHS, the ramifications and difficulties of the UK extricating itself from the EU, all things which will be causing sleepless nights for those tasked with the negotiations. He perhaps didn't predict the political chaos we are now in and would no doubt have been accused of Project Fear if he had.
If you prefer to go into a vote without any information, so be it, but there are a heck of a lot of disenchanted LEAVE voters being quoted as saying now "we didn't realise"
Stop reducing things to Left/Right factions, if you truly believe the correlation it is clear you still don't understand.
So "what good " might it have done? Well information is usually strength, ignorance sadly, not.

Elegran Mon 27-Jun-16 17:01:50

There "were" people who were wavering and said that the video sent them towards remain, ob I can't remember who offhand.

You say you didn't watch it - so how do you know that it wouldn't have clarified things for you?

Elegran Mon 27-Jun-16 17:02:29

Those "" round were should have been ^^

Jalima Mon 27-Jun-16 20:35:31

we can again become Great Britain
You mean that Ireland will become one again then?
I suppose that is feasible as Northern Ireland did vote to remain.

granjura Mon 27-Jun-16 20:40:47

Now this is a bit long, perhaps- but i could (well I wish) have written it myself:

katyboo1.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/happy-now/

whitewave Mon 27-Jun-16 20:49:17

That as you say could have been written by me.

durhamjen Mon 27-Jun-16 21:13:39

Brilliant, that, granjura.Going to pass it on to all on facebook.

Granny23 Mon 27-Jun-16 22:02:12

Well that's England out now.

Juliette Mon 27-Jun-16 22:05:55

In DH's words utter s****. A man of few words!!

daphnedill Tue 28-Jun-16 00:05:17

Great blog, granjura! I wish I'd written it too. It's worth reading.

Cath9 Tue 28-Jun-16 00:57:33

I'm going to get an Irish passport as my brother lives in Spain

Gracesgran Tue 28-Jun-16 08:07:10

Grandura the article says it all. Copied and pasted wherever I can think of. Thank you.

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 28-Jun-16 08:23:49

granjura that blog sums up my feelings. I've always loved the word fuckwits.

Judthepud2 Tue 28-Jun-16 10:11:10

Sack Mark Carney? Did Farage really say that? ? What a 'fuckwit'! MC is the only person in this increasingly nasty mess who has done something practical to stop UK going down the financial sinkhole.

daphnedill Tue 28-Jun-16 10:49:57

Both Farage and Ress-Mogg called for Carney's resignation...for...err...telling the truth.

Jane10 Tue 28-Jun-16 15:33:10

Outrage on outrage. Carney has done a terrific job. Farage's judgement is fatally impaired.

crun Tue 28-Jun-16 16:20:09

I see Farage has been making Britain grate again in Brussels today.

daphnedill Tue 28-Jun-16 16:23:29

grin

I loved the reprimand to the MEPs not to behave like UKIP usually does.

The look on the face of the woman sitting behind Farage said it all.

There's another video with Guy Verhofstadt - that man's a star!

crun Tue 28-Jun-16 17:45:13

Milligan's thoughts on Brexit

Judthepud2 Tue 28-Jun-16 19:57:50

Farage's comments to the EURO MEPs isn't going to help UK cause one bit. Telling the entire assembly that they have never worked a day in their lives is not going to help negotiations, methinks ?

CelticRose Tue 28-Jun-16 20:08:58

As mentioned - we are not out until Art 50 is signed. Which is as and when a lucky PM decides. There is no deadline to do this even after a positive referendum. Then we have two years of putting Brexit in place. As mentioned - what politician wants "to do this s..t". Certainly not Mr C. (By the way... his expletive - not mine.)