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Who to replace Cameron?

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Anniebach Fri 24-Jun-16 08:27:57

Only a few months and there will be a new PM, who?

daphnedill Sat 25-Jun-16 19:29:17

They've all been amazingly quiet, haven't they? Hmmm....

Anniebach Sat 25-Jun-16 19:50:58

Perhaps they need a rest, or perhaps away with the fairies after a hefty dose of Valium to calm any panic which may have set in

Devorgilla Sat 25-Jun-16 19:53:01

And you haven't even mentioned the Irish Question yet Letitia. I cannot believe the gathering fallout from this.

Jalima Sat 25-Jun-16 23:49:52

I think Dave should say "Ha ha! We were just doing a test run to see what would happen if we really left the EU. Sorry we didn't let you in on the secret, but we wanted to make it as authentic as possible."

Meanwhile, a group of reasonably impartial people should be instructed to produce a fact sheet, explaining how the EU works, how it affects the UK and what the risk factors might be, making sure that people understood they are risks not facts.
All campaigning should be banned.

Perhaps we will all wake up on Monday and find it was a dream sequence and Bobby David will come out of he shower

whitewave Sun 26-Jun-16 07:13:55

None of them!

There isn't a single Tory I want to replace DC. Their antics and self obsession got us into this mess. I wouldn't trust a single one to get us out.

daphnedill Sun 26-Jun-16 07:25:04

That most British of rocks, Gibraltar, is considering some kind of arrangement with Spain.

thatbags Sun 26-Jun-16 07:49:39

There is a lot of opposition to Boris from other tories.

There was an immense amount of opposition to Winston Churchill from other tories.

Both had 'colourful' previous careers.

Just saying.

daphnedill Sun 26-Jun-16 07:51:09

Boris is no Churchill!

whitewave Sun 26-Jun-16 07:57:43

bags grin some colourful characters make good decisions and some colourful characters make crap decisions. Even Churchill at times, particularly before the war.

Anniebach Sun 26-Jun-16 08:34:15

Johnson has some things in common with Churchill.

thatbags Sun 26-Jun-16 08:36:06

Exactly, ww, which is why he was unpopular in 1940. But he was one of the few who wanted to oppose Nazism properly. My point is that a 'bad' reputation isn't necessarily a bad thing in a politician.

Anniebach Sun 26-Jun-16 08:41:35

Being untrustworthy does not make one a good politician,

Alea Sun 26-Jun-16 08:41:58

I heard this on the radio yesterday afternoon.
Interesting.
"Sir Alan Duncan, a former Tory minister and a Remain supporter, said people should not assume Mr Johnson will be favourite to replace Mr Cameron. “Do not assume he is the darling of Conservative Party activists,” he said. “A lot of them don’t necessarily want a permanent ride on the Big Dipper.”

whitewave Sun 26-Jun-16 08:47:22

No but a poor decision maker should ring alarm bells.

LullyDully Sun 26-Jun-16 09:22:39

I don't think the Navy will be willing to give up Gibraltar. It is strategically so important to them.

obieone Sun 26-Jun-16 09:31:31

Gibraltar voted remain in the EU. it didnt vote to leave the UK.

trisher Sun 26-Jun-16 10:12:51

So did Scotland, but is there any way they can do both?

Alea Sun 26-Jun-16 10:13:39

Gib is under increasing pressure from Spain, the border has been closed more than once by the Spanish. They are in a vulnerable situation and UK / EU membership gives/gave (?) them added protection.

daphnedill Sun 26-Jun-16 10:22:24

Yes, it does. What it means is that hundreds of people can cross the border every day to go to work or shop and socialise. Businesses in Gibraltar can buy from Spain without tariffs and life is altogether much simpler than it's going to be. Anybody who has ever crossed into Gibraltar from Spain knows that queues can already build up and these are going to be much longer, because there will have to be longer passport and customs checks. There will now have to be a physical border, as there will have to be between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. Gibraltar also relies on its unique tax status to sell to Spaniards, so it will have to renegotiate everything. That's why Gibraltar voted 96%(?) to Remain, but is being affected by the politics of England and Wales.

POGS Sun 26-Jun-16 12:09:48

What a difference between the rhetoric of this thread and the Corbyn threads.!

So much hatred in partisan politics. sad

whitewave Sun 26-Jun-16 12:10:58

?????

whitewave Sun 26-Jun-16 12:25:58

The Observers observation.

"Johnson, has so far been deeply unimpressive. Having won, Cameron's presumptive successor initially declined to say anything at all. When he did he played for time. It may be that he is daunted by the heavy responsibilities that are now his. Or he may simply not be up to the job.
Michael Gove, another leading Brexiter, seems to have been playing a complicated politicL chess game with himself. Having won, apparently to his surprise, how will he manage the consequences? He offers no clue."

trisher Sun 26-Jun-16 12:26:09

Anyone see Andrew Marr this morning loved his question when IDS mentioned Osborne-"Well, yes, Where is the chancellor?" Gideon has disappeared hasn't he!

durhamjen Sun 26-Jun-16 12:46:49

Rumour has it that Osborne and May have eloped.

whitewave Sun 26-Jun-16 12:48:28

Given what has happened since Thursday I am prepared to believe anything