Gransnet forums

News & politics

Farage

(354 Posts)
Anniebach Mon 04-Jul-16 10:10:44

Farage is standing down as leader of UKIP

Anya Tue 05-Jul-16 19:01:21

I think you'll fnd you've all lost the arguement. The people have spoken.

Bad losers.

suzied Tue 05-Jul-16 19:08:53

the Hitler reference wasn't a knee jerk reaction, I'm not saying the leave campaign are in the same league, what I am saying is that democracy doesn't always lead to the good of the nation and I am seriously concerned that all the instability will give rise to extremism as was seen in the 1930s.

Jane10 Tue 05-Jul-16 19:43:16

Some of the people have spoken. All of the people will suffer. Congratulations brexit voters. Wonderful own goal!

suzied Tue 05-Jul-16 19:46:24

Although the Farage poster and the murder of Jo Cox reminded me of pivotal events in the past.

daphnedill Tue 05-Jul-16 20:13:09

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”

Isaac Asimov

thatbags Tue 05-Jul-16 22:22:54

Gove is renowned for his intellect. As are several other well-known Brexiters.

Some people chose not to speak at all so no sympathy for them whatever happens. Of those who spoke, the majority spoke for out.

Whether all will suffer will become apparent in due course. Until it does, it's a prediction by some experts and intellectuals. Other experts and intellectuals disagree with them. All of which is as per usual with almost everything regarding human affairs that experts and intellectuals talk about.

trisher Tue 05-Jul-16 22:38:24

I was always told that in victory you should be magnanimous. Instead of criticising us Remainers for being bad tempered perhaps you should try this. Or could it be that you know how precarious everything is and you are trying to deflect attention?
Bad Winners.

Zorro21 Tue 05-Jul-16 23:00:24

Badenkate Tue 05-Jul-16 23:05:54

Good heavens! You've quite taken my breath away Zorro21! I don't think I've ever read so unpleasant a post.

Tegan Tue 05-Jul-16 23:21:22

I think that definitely disproves the theory that Brexiters aren't intelligent, doesn't it!

Zorro21 Tue 05-Jul-16 23:38:50

Zorro21 Tue 05-Jul-16 23:43:28

Badenkate

I've never seen so much vitriol on a site ever before - poor Farage - if I were him I'd be sending these posts to the Police.

maddyone Wed 06-Jul-16 00:14:33

Good for you Zorro, there have been some extremely vitriolic remarks on here over Brexit and Farage and quite frankly I don't like it. I'm surprised mature! people feel able to make such vitriolic comments, much as I'm surprised about the demands from many that we rerun the referendum because apparently people didn't know what they were voting for if they voted out. I think people knew perfectly well what they were voting for, and for others to seek to demean them because they don't agree with them is appalling. Accept the result with good grace.

daphnedill Wed 06-Jul-16 02:44:41

Really? Never seen so much vitriol? grin I can direct you to quite a few with real vitriol if you want.

It surprises me at times that mature people with access to the internet can come up with some of the things they do.

The UK is keen to keep those countries on our side, but it has also been stated quite clearly that they are in no state to join the the EU for decades.

suzied Wed 06-Jul-16 05:55:39

Which posts should Farage send to the police? I don't see any death or rape threats. I think the worse anyone's called him on here is a liar ( and that's true)

suzied Wed 06-Jul-16 06:12:00

Zorro - you missed out "taking our jobs" on your list

thatbags Wed 06-Jul-16 06:19:32

Alice Thomson opinion article on Farage and what the Tory and Labour Parties should do about 3.8 million Ukip voters now that the "Ukip one man band" has achieved its aim.

JessM Wed 06-Jul-16 06:36:52

I don't think UKIP has many active members. It has one extremely rich backer and Nigel Farage was his darling as long as Farage kept getting press coverage.
Can I suggest some lightly intellectual reading for those who voted to Leave and still convinced that it was a great idea despite the fact the pound keeps falling to new 30 year lows.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
Gove was obviously bright enough to get a scholarship to a posh private school in Scotland. However being good at school work does not mean that he has acquired a smidgen of mature judgement about the real world. As most secondary school teachers in England will attest.

daphnedill Wed 06-Jul-16 06:39:13

Farage is 'disgusted' at May's refusal to promise EU nationals they can stay in UK.

You couldn't make it up!

whitewave Wed 06-Jul-16 07:01:36

Would it not be possible for someone like the tax payers alliance to sue Farage for taking money and not doing the job he is being paid to do?

thatbags Wed 06-Jul-16 07:10:08

A tweet about so-called experts by a Remainer I follow. (He's a botanist). I think the point is that experts are usually expert within a very small field of knowledge. There are very few polymaths in the world today and even polymaths can be wrong about human nature while being full of knowledge. Knowledge isn't the same as wisdom.

Random post.

thatbags Wed 06-Jul-16 07:10:45

Where is that reported, please, dd?

thatbags Wed 06-Jul-16 07:11:52

No worries. Found it.

thatbags Wed 06-Jul-16 07:15:40

Well. I thought I had. Googled "Farage disgusted" and got links that looked right but they took me to Guardian reporting about the Tory Party Leadership contest.

Do you have a direct link to an actual report, please, dd?

whitewave Wed 06-Jul-16 07:22:19

Wouldn't that have been the article?