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LibDems win Council seat in Sheffield

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daphnedill Fri 09-Sept-16 09:25:20

Mosborough (Sheffield) result:
LDEM: 45.6% (+31.8)
LAB: 34.1% (-9.2)
UKIP: 12.4% (-9.8)
CON: 6.1% (-7.9)
GRN: 1.8% (-1.3)

The LibDems won a council seat from Labour yesterday with a huge swing. Does anybody know this seat and know what's going on?

Anniebach Sat 17-Sept-16 21:40:53

What is troubling is the young who have flocked to join Momentum believe he can bring bring world peace, very much like the young in the sixties, he spoke recently about Dylan and Baez, how many of us remember the excitement of the sixties, world peace, protest songs, JFK, King, Corbyn is still in that decade, hence, rather unkindly I refer to him as an aging hippie but it's true, he is feeding the young false hope.

Anniebach Sat 17-Sept-16 22:42:08

Gets worse, Corbyn is going to have members of the party choose the some of the shadow chainpbinet , which mean momentum will choose and Corbyn is windening the gap between himself and the MP's , he realy is determined to destroying the Labour Party

trisher Sat 17-Sept-16 23:09:51

There is no evidence that abandoning nuclear weapons would put the people of this country at risk. Indeed it can be argued that the huge amount spent on Trident would be better used to increase our standard military capacity. If the young of this country are once again concerned about war I am very pleased. I remember Baez and Dylan and a movement that put a stop to the war in Vietnam.

Anniebach Sat 17-Sept-16 23:14:37

Can you compare warfare now to fifty years ago? The world is so unstable now , impossible to compare it with fifty years ago

durhamjen Sun 18-Sept-16 11:00:20

voxpoliticalonline.com/2016/09/17/elite-goes-tinfoil-over-momentum-paul-mason/

For a bit of balance.

Anniebach Sun 18-Sept-16 11:02:51

MidWalesMike ! Pass

durhamjen Sun 18-Sept-16 11:10:08

labourlist.org/2016/09/momentum-tells-owen-smith-come-to-meet-our-members/

I bet he won't.

durhamjen Sun 18-Sept-16 11:11:12

It's Paul Mason, not Mike Sivier. However, you are probably prejudiced against him as well.

durhamjen Sun 18-Sept-16 11:12:52

medium.com/mosquito-ridge/elite-goes-tinfoil-over-momentum-dd544c9d8f1c

Anniebach Sun 18-Sept-16 11:50:03

MidWalesMike is the editor of vovpolitical, I certaintly know more of him than you

durhamjen Sun 18-Sept-16 11:53:17

I know that, Annie, you've told me often enough.
What's that got to do with an article by Paul Mason.

You know lots more people in the Labour party than I do.
Fortunately, like Corbyn, I don't do innuendo.

POGS Sun 18-Sept-16 11:58:19

How on earth could Paul Mason be said to give ' a bit of balance'? He starts off by saying-

"In the past two days there’s been a clear, programmed switch of emphasis in the Labour right’s campaign against Jeremy Corbyn.
They have switched from attacking Corbyn himself to attacking Momentum, the grassroots campaign set up by his supporters after he won last time, and which forms the backbone of his leadership campaign now."

Past 2 days! Momentum evolved following Corbyn's successful Labour Leadership win at the tail end of 2015 and it only took about 2 days after it's formation for the comments and concerns to be raised about who was behind it and how it would likely progress. It didn't take long for those voices to be proved to have some genuine reason for concern and the concerns were coming from the Labour MP's too who were on the receiving end.

Paul Mason gives his view, fair enough, but it can hardly be described as 'giving balance' given his political history.

Anniebach Sun 18-Sept-16 12:01:07

I will agree, you are very like Corbyn Jen, pipe dreams before the needs of the vunerable

Anniebach Sun 18-Sept-16 12:06:29

No one writes for vixpoliticalonline unless MidWalesMike agrees with their political views , this is why there will be no political views from the centre . Balanced? No way.

Far left propaganda ? every time,

MaizieD Sun 18-Sept-16 12:51:30

Can you compare warfare now to fifty years ago? The world is so unstable now , impossible to compare it with fifty years ago

And no doubt people were saying precisely that to the CND marchers. Everyone in history has thought it's 'worse now than it used to be'

Surely you haven't forgotten the Cuban Missile crisis and the cold War? Pretty scary and unstable feeling at the time... Russia and the USA squaring up to each other all the time in third party countries. Scared the sh*t out of me at the time...

Anniebach Sun 18-Sept-16 12:55:32

No I haven't forgotten, and it is worse now than fifty years ago

durhamjen Sun 18-Sept-16 15:03:39

POGS, a bit of balance against someone who completely denigrates everything that Corbyn says.

Annie, can you tell me which of Corbyn's policies you disagree with?

durhamjen Sun 18-Sept-16 15:07:45

It is Mike Sivier's blog, Annie. What do you expect?
Progress writes against Corbyn. Labourlist is against Corbyn.
Every bit of media you can think of is against Corbyn.
Someone's got to write a blog on his side.

Anniebach Sun 18-Sept-16 16:18:17

Fair enough Jen, but you claimed it was balanced - not true , and must you keep repeating the same question, my objection to Corbyn is I do not trust him, I sgree with Msrgsret Hodge who said - I thought Jeremy was a decent man, now I know he is a devious man. So no need to ask the question again.

No matter his policies if there is no power to put thrum into practice . You want him as leader of Labour, I want a Labour government , big difference

durhamjen Sun 18-Sept-16 16:41:29

I did not say it was balanced. I said 'for a bit of balance'.
I meant against your anti-Corbyn tirades.

So you agree with all of his policies?
So does Owen Smith.
So what's your problem.

You and Owen Smith and those who do not respect the mandate of the membership are causinbg the split.
Lots of new members have joined because they trust Corbyn. They think he is honest and decent, far more than some of the other MPs.

Anniebach Sun 18-Sept-16 17:14:40

Please stop asking the same question over and over, I hive said countless times I believe him to be self serving , a liar, and a disgrace to the position he holds . Got it ?

durhamjen Sun 18-Sept-16 17:27:32

You stop making the same criticisms of Corbyn over and over, and I'll stop asking the same question over and over.
Got it?

By the way, you didn't answer it.

Do you agree with all of Corbyn's policies?

Anniebach Sun 18-Sept-16 17:39:11

Pass

Anniebach Sun 18-Sept-16 18:42:38

Corbyn has repeatedly said he wants MP 's to get behind him. I move was put forward that the MP's selected the shadow cabinet , not the positions, this seemed a way of healing rifts in my opinion. Corbyn has his own ideas, he wants party members to have their say in selecting the shadow cabinet.

Scuppered any hope of working together which he keeps whinning about but moved quickly to prevent it

petra Sun 18-Sept-16 19:36:20

Did anyone see Niel Kinnock on the news saying that he doubts if he will see another labour government in his lifetime. He must feel so sad.