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Thank you Petra, I post what has been said to me because it may interest some, if some alleged Labour Party members had attended many conferences, canvassed at every general election for over fifty years, and leadership elections plus the Welsh parliment from its birth onwards, accepted positions in the party's committees , been active in the party's campaign against apartheid for many years , been very involved in the miners strike they too would have met quite a few politicians , they chose to read about socialism instead

I'm sure your recollections and anecdotes about politicians would be welcome on a different thread Annie but we were discussing the role of Chief Whip and Nick Brown. You seem to think he isn't right for the job.

Well I find it's a bit of irony Anniebach is being repeatedly questioned over her Labour credentials / loyalty by some who have declared they have not voted Labour for years, said they vote for another party, all in a manner that would give an impression they have voted Labour all their lives.

Anniebach has to my mind been one of a handful of posters who have stayed true to the party .

What is the difference between Anniebach having a change of heart over Corbyn than others who voted Labour (at least say they did)having a change of heart with Blair? Indeed to the point they keep repeating the point they 'stopped voting Labour' because of Blair.

I have had many disagreements with Anniebach, quite heated at times but to be fair I respected she was coming at it as a true Labour voter/activist not by giving the appearance of being a Labour voter/activist. She has never declared to voting for another party, never promoted voting for any other party as some posters have most certainly done quite openly.

Trisher,i don't give a hoot about your opinions and views, you take delight in belittling people, a trait which causes harm to some. That's all I have to say to you , I will post as I choose within the rules and you do not set the rules

POGS Annie has posted criticisms of the appointment of Nick Brown, I don't think it is unreasonable to ask her if she thinks he is a good choice.
I know Annie's views on Corbyn she has posted them many times.
Fine Annie as I have no comments or stories of politicians to post (I have met some but can't remember a thing they said) I will withdraw and leave you to tell your stories

Before you pop off trisher please quote where I criticised Mick Brown, I criticised the sacking of Rosie Winterton

I had left this thread but thinking of all the that has been said something suddenly clicked, Jen you claim to have been a long time party member, yet you didn't know Hatton and .galloway are not members of the party

Anniebach what will some people do for entertainment if you leave this thread? As a Christian woman I'm sure you wouldn't want to deprive them of this

Petra

Petra , my Christian love is hitting an all time low ?

I am so angry with myself , taking all the put downs and only just realised from a source who is not a long time member of the party , who wasn't a member in the eighties , who doesn't even know the politics of George .galloway

Think I should change my user name to Aunt Saly, oh I am stupid m grrrrr

The Ghandian Peace Award?
For someone who consistently refused to condemn the IRA atrocities?
That is beyond ironic

anniebach have a

Thank you Jalima , just what I need , it has taken months for the penny to drop

Mo Mowlam also refused to condemn the IRA atrocities and built the Good Friday agreement are you both suggesting that we would be much better off without it?

I see what you mean anniebach

Ridiculous is too mild a word for some posts

If it is wrong that 1 person didn't condemn IRA atrocities is it then OK that someone else didn't? Where I come from that is known as double standards, but if you are happy to have them I suppose that is OK. Personally I support anyone who recognises that there were horrors and atrocities committed by all parties in the N. Ireland conflict (including the British Gov). Accepting this and moving forward is what a peace agreement is about. Dragging up old animosities is what perpetuates conflict.

Mo angered the IRA and the catholic community by allowing the unionist march through Drumcree

She became involved with NI when she became shadow secretary and then Secretary of State fir NI, the peace talks were underway

Corbyn invited IRA leaders to Westminster shortly after the Brighton bombing , he attended the annual memorial tribute to Sands and all dead IRA members,

He was on the editorial board of a magazine ehich caused much anger when it printed the following jokes! Following the Brighton bombing -

What do you call four dead Tories ? A start . And on Tebbit who was stretched out of the hotel - now ride your bike Norman

And trisher you compare him with Mo? Is there no attempt of defence you will not stoop to to defend that man

Mo worked with all sides for peace, your hero fully supported the IRA

Mo also upset the Unionists by swearing at them and upset everyone at meetings when she removed her wig. Part of her peace process was visiting the hunger strikers and 'dirty' prisoners in prison. If it hadn't been for people like Corbyn it is highly unlikely they would even have talked to her. It was the left wing of the Labour Party who kept communication open.
Anniebach aren't you a Christian and isn't there something about loving your neighbour? And isn't your neighbour the Samaritan who most people think of as the enemy? Just asking?

Mo talked to both sides - big difference

Please do not credit Corbyn with the work of Mo

As a Christian I would have no problem in forgiving Corbyn if he admitted his hypocrisy , he will not, he hides behind so called principles

Did you not feel compassion for Tebbit when he was stretched out of the hotel? I did even though I was angered by his politics , this is my Christianity and it is not for you to question or mock

When did Corbyn give support to the Unionists trisher?

anniebach I am not as Christian as you and I do not want to be banned from GN by saying what I think.

Suffice it to say, I respect you for staying true to your beliefs which are ones my DF espoused. I may not agree with you some if the time but your posts are always interestin - and much from your personal experience, not some pundut's views.

It is a pity that some posters take others' words and twist them to contort their meaning - eg If one asks why someone who refuses to condemn bombing should be awarded a peace prize one apparently does not want peace.
Ludicrous

If you mention something someone who is relevant to the thread said to you, you are 'name-dropping'!

Good luck - we're off to the refuse tip!

I never said Corbyn supported the Unionists Anniebach Why should he?
Why is it hypocrisy to believe peace can only be achieved if there is open discussion and a recognition that there are issues that will never be resolved? It is about moving forward and not looking at the dreadful things that were done in the past. So all the posting about people who have been injured I refuse to reply to. Continue digging up the past if you wish, in doing so you dishonour the memory of a great woman who would probably have told you to F*****g get on with it.

Thank you Jalima, I never expect anyone to agree with me, it is no one's right - well unless it's queenie

Twisting words is a sign of desperation in my opinion as replying to a question with a question , avoidance of truth I think

Have fun at the refuse tip, I will cause anger to a poster by explaining I knew Mo Molam , oops

Interesting I wonder where you met her? she rarely visited Wales.

It is getting a bit "Lloyd George knew my father" on here.

Trisher, Mo didn't condone or condemn either side, she listened and talked to both sides, you are doing her memory a grave injustice by not acknowledging this and comparing her with a long time IRA sympathiser

You refuse to talk about the injured and dead in the Brighton bombing? avoidance?

You claim Corbyn worked for peace in NI and compared him with Mo, yet you ask why should he support one side in the conflict whilst he gave support to the other side, you cannot have peace talks with one side only