Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

Regarding the US planes the story was first posted by a Canadian journalist and has been picked up by many news sites
www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/2203
Nobody can be really certain of what they are up to. The US has a history of being involved in some very shady stuff when there is conflict. Remember the Vietnam war where all the people killed by their bombs were Vietcong (of course they were)

Trisher, you cinsider being claimed a member of Momentum, formed to give support to Corbyn an insult

You claim you support Corbyn's politics yet believe anyone classed as having communist polictics an insult

You support and fiercely defend Conrbyn yet you find being called a Corbynista an insult

Never bothered me being classed a Brownite or on the left

i am no longer of the left because the far left has been reborn , so will settle for left of centre, being classed with Galoway and Hatton would be shameful for me

Surely saying - nobody can be really certain of what they are up to is not as you said earlier - there is evidence

What I don't find amusing is the jingoistic and warmongering attitudes posted.

I can't really see any jingoistic and warmongering attitudes, only a condemnation of Russia and Assad and empathy for the people of Aleppo.

Just because a story spreads throughout the internet eg re the war planes, does not make it true.
I would not defend American policy, especially in Vietnam.

So you regard being thought of as a member of Momentum, a supporter of Corbyn as an insult?
A lot of people, some on here, would find that insulting in itself. Everyone is entitled to their views.

Niggly, I passed the 11+, you are far more articulate than I could ever be , seems you had a lucky escape

So let's get this right you don't want to protest against the war, but Stop the War should, You don't want to stop selling arms to the Middle East because that won't do any good. You want to sit around saying how awful the bombing is and how dreadful Russia is and criticising anyone who thinks that perhaps it isn't really all the fault of one country.

Trisher, if you must reply to posts try not twist them, difficult for you it seems

Thank you ab. I wouldn't say that I am any more articulate than you, and for certain you express your convictions far more courageously than I do!!!!
I've been accused of being a member of UKIP, which I am not! Luckily I was able to shrug it off!
As I see it we in the West have tried to help the opposition in Syria be it all too little too late, and no doubt keck handidly, the road to hell is often paved with good intentions. We did attempt a no fly zone way back in the days of Saddam to try to protect the Kurds whom he was murdering indiscriminately, ((I think sometimes we forget what a monster Saddam was!!) and we (the west) did chase the Taliban out of Kabul and liberate most of Afghanistan. A lot of what we have done and are doing isn't perfect, far from it, and a lot of mistakes have been made, but I do think we do and are trying to do our best whereas Russia is deliberately targeting civilians deliberately reducing Aleppo to rubble deliberately targeting the most vulnerable, including humanitarian aid, all for the sole purpose of maintaining the Assad regime and their own foothold in Syria which gives a perfect view of the West.

which for me makes them (Russia) far more culpable than the West.

www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/gunmen-open-fire-gathering-afghan-shrine-161011165414500.html

www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2016/10/frighteningly-high-human-financial-costs-war-syria-afghanistan-161010085529971.html

How do Russia need Syria to have a perfect view of the West?

They have one anyway. They do not need a physical presence.

Then why are they so anxious to keep their naval and airbase in Syria?! Why else would they prop up the Assad regime?!

No idea. Putin doesn't tell me anything.
If you listen to Trump, Putin can get hold of any information he wants. Just like America and the UK, he has drones to get his view of the west, and the internet. He probably knows more about you than Theresa Mayhem does.

Oh, I don't think that nickname will catch on. Very school playground-ish!

Very probably, but Russia stills wants those bases!and still likes to fly as close to our shores as they can before being politely asked to move on! Wonder why?!

It has already. That's why I used it. Obviously you do not read the same things I do.

By the way, there are thirty MPs who have returned to the shadow cabinet.
Even Thangam Debbonaire who has said she is delighted to be a whip and thanked Corbyn for giving her this opportunity.

As you say Ana, but best ignored.

Blimey, just googled and it was first used in the Sun in 2014! Is that where you read it?

(Sorry niggly)

Ana

No problem Ana! Wow the Sun?! No I certainly don't read that dj, and find it hard to believe you do!!! Life's full of surprises!

Never read the Sun, Ana, not even online.
Pleased you read the Guardian online, though.

I'll stop straight away!

You do realise nigglynellie that Saddam was the West's creature, installed and armed in order to wage war on Iran and keep down the threat of the Ayatollah, who was of course chosen by the people of Iran in preference to the Shah installed by the West again. We have been meddling in the affairs of the Middle East for decades. Saddam was armed and supported by the west until they fell out with him. Incidentally he used chemical weapons against Iran and there was no outcry from the west about that. We may not have interfered directly as the Russians are but we have been doing it for longer and if you were to calculate the numbers of dead and injured in all the conflicts we have supplied weapons for or supported in other ways we would almost certainly exceed the number killed in Aleppo.