Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

No one has disputed that people didn't support the Nazi's between the wars, they certainly did, exactly as some people supported Stalin. What is being said is that whether anyone did or didn't support the Nazi's it wouldn't have made a jot of difference to Hitler and his henchmens intentions!

It was the war that was being discussed Ana and I said different actions could have meant war was avoided, nothing to do with responsibility for the rise, but it was never greeted with the distaste people now associate with Nazism, it was in fact welcomed.

To quote Corbyn - with hindsight !

Annie, can you please tell me where I called you a Tory spy?
If not, please retract that.

So roses and Annie, why bother with this thread? If we are always going to sell arms because everyone else does, what's the point?
We may as well just kill each other.
No point in civilisation.

I thought humans were supposed to be better than that.

Annie, are you still a member of Hopenothate?
In that case, you should know about the Nazis in this country. Why are you not anti Nazi on this thread?

Does anyone else have a problem with their internet connection?
I keep losing mine.

Is it just me...?

We may as well kill each other djen ? what, a fight to the death between thee and me?

There is certainly not much point to this thread now, I'll give you that.

There must be something in the water down Durham way...

No, roses, we'll just all bomb everywhere else, and they can bomb us. That's the end point of your strategy, if that's what it is.
Actually, that's what modern nuclear bombs will do anyway, and of course we all need those, don't we? Can't do without them, to make ourselves feel like we are important.

Let me tell you what Stop the War actually do. They campaign for OUR government to stop being involved in wars. They do not campaign for other governments to stop. Why? Because they can't influence other governments but they might possibly influence ours. They don't waste their energies on other countries. So telling them to demonstrate outside any embassy (bloody cheek that is when you're not prepared to demonstrate yourself) is proof that you are ignorant of their agenda. Here's a link to their website which tells you in very easy understand words what their intentions are. www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php/news-comment/19-for-the-avoidance-of-doubt-the-positions-of-the-stop-the-war-coalitionThose of you who don't like links will remain ignorant - but I'll bet you'll continue to lambast them, just like the gutter press (and the Daily Mail IS the gutter press).

Jrn, you did, I cannot recall the thread and I am not going to wade through every thread , I will not retract it, your posts at times get quite hysterical ,i assure you it is true.

Look pack st the posts this evening, you said if this country stopped selling arms it would reduce a percentage of arms sold, I only said if this country did stop selling arms snother country would fill thst percentage , Rosesarered agreed, at no time did I support selling arms.

Yes I still belong to Hope not Hate, received the mail re the group coming to Scotland and yes I signed the partition.

I have no time for far right or far left , both are dangerous. Germany had Hitler and Russia had Stalin.

I haven bothered to join in the Nazi discussion, this thread is getting more and more over the top claims from you and Trisher . I have a week of very painful memories to cope with, grief and anger do not fade with time when there has been a grave miscarriage of justice , I find coming on here a relief from it all.

No I didn't, Annie. I never called you a Tory spy at all. I might have said you are not a socialist, and you do not come across as one any more, whatever your history.
Of course roses agrees with you about selling arms. How can you agree with hopenothate and still say we should sell arms?
Have you noticed that roses always agrees with you now. She never used to, because you did not agree with her. You have changed.
You might come on here to find relief. In that case it would be better not to attack trisher and me.

Is that a threat? Blimey, you're sailing close to the wind tonight durhamjen...

Sorry, Ana, where's the threat? You're getting ridiculous in your attacks now.
Annie knows what the thread is like. We are allowed to stand up for our beliefs, aren't we, just as she is?
If she wants relief from it all, she should go on a chat thread, rather than a politics thread.

jen, as soon as I said I could no longer support Corbyn you haven't stopped twisting my posts.

Think sbout it please, if we stopped selling arms it will not reduce the arms being sold , snother country will make and sell mor, I have not change my views on the arms trade . And do not threaten me again, never ,now dare you threaten any poster

I have not changed by polictics, I had no idea you were of the far left.

Why not contact the moderators and see if you can have me banned , You csn pretend you are having me deselected ?

As I said before agree with arm sales by all means but then don't moan when those weapons are used to bomb civilians and you see children suffering. It is no good saying "Oh but we didn't expect anyone to do that with them". When the UK and the US arm the Saudis children die in the Yemen. Have we no responsibility for that?

I am not momentum, never have been. Who is twisting whose posts?
I did not threaten you. I just suggested that if you wanted relief, you ought to go on other threads, not contentious ones.

You have changed your politics. You supported and voted for Corbyn a year ago. He hasn't changed his, so you must have done.
Why can't you be like the 30 MPs who came back to support him, realising that he is the leader now.

If we stop selling arms it will reduce the number in use. Very few countries and companies have the ability that UK and BAE have to produce arms.
Anyway, that's beside the point.
Nobody should produce the arms that we do, the missiles that will kill people without destroying buildings.
It's sick to think that because we have them we should sell them.
I have a shell on my hearth. It's a candlestick now. It reminds me that good things can be made. We don't have to sell bombs, shells and bullets.
You believe otherwise if that gives you some relief. You're wrong.

He hasn't changed? Hi I'd grief, a joke st last

. How many of the thirty who went back had been threatened with deselection?

Nobody's been threatened with deselection, Annie.
Can you name a single person who has, apart from those who will lose their seats because of the Tory boundary changes. They are deselecting MPs, not Corbyn.

In what way has he changed ab?

www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/23488

Some religious people want an end to arms sales to Saudi. Those are the ones I agree with.
In fact they want us to get rid of nuclear weapons, too, and I agree with that.

trisher

You say this

"I believe the Nazis were a threat which could have been contained much earlier had it not been for some sympathetic voices in the establishment in this country. "

That is exactly what some have been saying with regard to Assad .

George Galloway, McDonald and Corbyn certainly supported Russia and China in their support of Assad , they made speeches in the house.