Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

Surely they should be heading for Russia?

If you don't believe there were Nazi sympathizers in this country who looked on the fascists as an organisation that might provide some sort of solution to many problems that's your problem, and I never mentioned Hitler.

If the invaders were instituting proper democracy and perhaps overthrowing a more totalitarian state then yes I might Annie.

Perhaps you should be thankful that scared but brave men and women did the fighting
For you (you said that all war was wrong) trisher if we had lost and had been taken over, your civil unrest wouldn't have got you further than the nearest wall.

I can't believe you said that, Annie. Some of the others, but not you!
You think that we should continue selling weapons to Saudi because if we didn't, someone else would?
So you think we should be complicit in what goes on in Syria and Yemen?

That makes me feel quite sick, considering you have told us you want peace.
How could you have marched for peace, and now say that.

Of course there were well-known Nazi sympathisers, no one could deny that.

But to claim that they could have had any influence to counteract the rise if they'd changed their minds is ridiculous.

No doubt if there were any Nazi's around today, you would prefer them to oust the Conservatives and set up shop in Westminster.

Oh do calm down, durhamjen. Can't you address Annie without losing your rag?

djen you mistake marching for peace as already achieving it.

Quite easy to answer your hysterical question Jen - I didn't say what you claim I said

The problem ( for some pacifists) Is that they mistake all non pacifists for 'war mongers' when they are nothing of the sort, but it is the non pacifists who make life easy for them by fighting on their behalf ( and often dying.)

Ana, I didn't lose my rag. I showed disappointment and disbelief in someone I used to admire for her stance.
I don't,roses. I want peace everywhere. I don't mistake marching for peace with anything.

In Edinburgh there is going to be a Nazi gathering with an American Nazi band coming over. It's organised by the EDL.
On the HopenotHate website if you want to look.
Annie used to be a member of this group, although she obviously isn't any more.
A third of the money collected for Jo Cox went to this group, because Jo Cox thought it important to stop Nazi groups infiltrating this country.

I now think trisher is enjoying winding up posters, the reply of deciding who she msy vote for, a British government or a government put forward by an invading country

There were lots of communist sympathisers in this country too between the wars despite the horrors of Stalin and his Gulags!
The idea that anything we did or said could have influenced the intentions of the Nazi's is laughable, not even worth squabbling about!

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Is pacifism and non-pacifism the same as wanting to sell arms and not wanting to sell arms?
No, it's warmongering, not non-pacifism. Say it how it is, roses.
Those who want to sell arms are warmongers. That's what it means, selling war.

Quite true, niggly

So now the discussion's about Nazis, is it?

Jen, you really sre losing control, and you are not being honest , you have had the knife out for me since I change my opinion on Corbyn , you have called me stupid, childish, a Tory spy, just because I will not support the far left.i still support all the organisations I have always supported with the exception of Stop The War

As you well know djen but are fond of asking questions, pacifists will not enter the army of their own country, even with the threat of invasion , and non pacifists will do, to prevent invasion and their way of life. Neither get a say in how much arms are produced and sold, but we know that most countries , if not all, make and sell arms.

Arms trading will not stop.Ever, and unless all countries stopped exporting arms and kept to it.......and what then, a small country being threatened by a larger one and not having enough to defend itself with, what would they do.I'll tell you, they would call on countries they have treaties with to send arms to help them, and so on and so on.

True Rosesarered, seems mans basic nature is being ignored

Fine rosesarered then accept the consequences of arms trading will be countries who will use those weapons to bomb innocent children.
For those who doubted that there was Nazi support in Britain

The B.U.F. began to receive support from the influential Conservative press in the form of Media Baron Lord Rothermore, who's paper the 'Daily Mail' backed Mosley enthusiastically, beginning with the infamous 'Hurrah for the Blackshirts' headline of the 8th of January 1934. Lady Houstons 'Saturday Review' was also outspoken in its endorsement of England's would be Fuehrer.

According to the 'Daily Mail' of the 15th of January 1934, the British Union of Fascists was:

"a well organised party of the right ready to take over responsibility for national affairs with the same directness of purpose and energy of method as Hitler and Mussolini have displayed"(3)

Makes you think doesn't it.

And if you thought it was just the newspapers
Similar sentiments were voiced in the House of Commons, on the 24th of July 1934
William P.C. Greene, Conservative party M.P. for Worchester and a landowner in Australia asked:

"Is it not a fact that ninety per cent of those accused of attacking Fascists rejoice in fine old British names such as Ziff, Kernstein and Minsky"

Now there's anti-semitism for you.

It doesn't make me think any more than I already had done about that subject.

You're surely not insisting with your ridiculous claim that Britain is ultimately responsible for the rise of the Nazi party in Germany?