Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

(My reply was to trisher)

trisher

"Have you looked at the composition of the Committee? It has 6 Conservative members, 3 Labour and 1 SNP, no Greens, no Liberals, no UKIP. So it is not in effect an All Party committee."

Member Party Constituency
Tim Loughton MP
(Chairman (Acting))ConservativeEast Worthing and
Shoreham
Victoria Atkins MPConservativeLouth and Horncastle
James Berry MPConservativeKingston and Surbiton
David Burrowes MPConservativeEnfield Southgate
Nusrat Ghani MPConservativeWealden
Ranil Jayawardena MPConservativeNorth East Hampshire

Vacancy

Stuart McDonald MPScottish National PartyCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East
Naz Shah MP Labour Bradford West
Chuka Umunna MP Labour Streatham
David Winnick MPLabour Walsall North

The Vacant position was Labour MP Keith Vaz who resigned for obvious reasons.

As for The Greens, their 1 MP Caroline Lucas sits on The Environmental Audit Select Committee. The SNP have representation on many Select Committees. The Lib Dems have only 8 MP's yet there are 4 Select Committees with Lib Dem MP's serving. The 1 UKIP MP as far as I know has no representation on any Select Committee.(mind you with PR they probably would).

If you feel the Select Committee is not represented by the parties you mentioned do you honestly expect The Greens, UKIP, The SNP MP's should sit on 'every' Select Committee or the findings and eventual reports are what in your mind Bias, Unworthy, Disreputable ?

Ridiculous.

Attacks on Jewish MPs?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/27/internet-troll-jail-violent-antisemitic-threats-labour-mp-luciana-berger

There are no links to Labour members attacking Berger.

Of what relevance is that link to this thread?

To my knowledge Berger has never been mentioned on this thread , perhaps I missed some posts, poor Ruth Smeeth has received thousands of vile mails, suppose being bullied by a Corbyn supporter at the release of the anti Semitic enquiry results and shown on the news plus Corbyn shown laughing with the bully following the incident could have encouraged Corbyn devotees to act

Ana look at the anti-semetic incidents in the 27 racial link. Shouldn't they have been properly looked at and shouldn't Pickles at least have known about the UCL incident? Or doesn't it matter because it's the Conservative Party?
POGS Ummuna and Winnick are both members of Progress and have spoken out against Corbyn. Naz Shah isn't a signatory because she was a witness. A Lib Dem or a Green party MP might have added some political balance to this committee. Even if you accept that these MPs have tried to be unbiased when producing this report in not commenting on the Conservatives they have provided a basis for criticism. Justice must not only be done it must be seen to be done.

The attacks on Jewish MP's are most certainly racist

One of your posts, Annie.

No doubt there'll be a petition soon protesting against the findings of the select committee - or is there one up and running already?

? Jen

Perhaps momentum are organising a March Ana

Annie, I presume Luciana Berger was one of the Jewish Labour MPs to whom you referred?

Do you Jen? I had no one in MP in mind , best not to presume perhaps

trisher

So now Chuka Umuna and David Winnock are bias, disreputable in your eyes if you don't disagree with my post . Ye Gods David Winnock! No doubt Keith Vaz too had he not resigned.(hmm,).

I know you have stated until recently you were a Lib Dem voter and returned to Labour under Corbyn but seriously David Winnonck! Am I mistaken in believing he has been an outspoken critic of the Israeli Government? Do you not know that.

You are clutching at straws in your defence of Corbyn using any distraction such as the Select Committee Members, David Cameron , Theresa May and Pickles.

I like the brilliant answer Pat McFadden gave Andrew Neil today on Sunday Politics when asked about The Home Affairs Select Committee Report into Anti Semitism and Labour . He said this:-

"I hope we don't make the mistake here of shooting the messenger. I hope we take the report seriously and I hope we don't fall into the trap that sometimes I see when these accusations are wielded that we point to anti racism records
and say "Look at our virtue and our record here that must mean we can't be anti-semetic".

Let me be clear about this 'POINTING TO YOUR OWN SENSE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NO EXCUSE FOR NASTYNESS OR CRUELTY TO SOMEBODY ELSE' so I think we should take this very seriously indeed"

Well said that man.

Well, Luciana Berger was the only one who had someone taken to court for it.
He wasn't a Labour member.
Ruth Smeeth has had her complaint looked into, and the remarks were not anti semitic.

Do you know of any more Jewish MPs who were attacked?

'Despite significant press and public attention on the Labour Party, and a number of revelations regarding inappropriate social media content, there exists no reliable, empirical evidence to support the notion that there is a higher prevalence of antisemitic attitudes within the Labour Party than any other political party. We are unaware whether efforts to identify antisemitic social media content within the Labour Party were applied equally to members and activists from other political parties, and we are not aware of any polls exploring antisemitic attitudes among political party members, either within or outside the Labour Party.'

From the report.

Yep. Labour MP Louise Ellman for starters.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/07/british-jewish-leader-corbyn-must-stop-fobbing-off-antisemitism-in-labour
Extract

'The latest incident to trigger a row centred on a tweet by Corbyn’s brother, Piers. After the Labour MP Louise Ellman, who is Jewish, said actions rather than words were needed to tackle antisemitism within the party, Piers Corbyn tweeted that this was “rubbish”, and “All #Corbyns are committed #AntiNazi. #Zionists cant cope with anyone supporting rights for #Palestine”.

In response, Jeremy Corbyn said his brother was “not wrong”. He added: “My brother has his point of view, I have mine and we actually fundamentally agree – we are a family that were brought up fighting racism from the day we were born.”

Arkush said: “Jeremy Corbyn’s defence of his brother’s belittling of the problem of antisemitism is deeply disturbing.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/momentum-activists-tried-to-stop-antisemitism-inquiry-hh3jrlzml

www.theguardian.com/membership/2016/sep/13/louise-ellman-mp-liverpool-riverside-labour

Worth a read as it brings in the question of Momentum too.

There are always questions about Momentum , could the young be drawn in thinking they were fighting for Palastine , quite possibly

trisher your post 19.06

"One Labour MP didn't sign because she was also a witness, the other 2 have openly criticised Corbyn and are members of Progress. It would have been nice to have at least one impartial voice on there."

Would the one Labour MP who didn't sign because she was a witness Naz Shah by any chance?

Maybe that's because she had to apologise to Parliament for anti-semetic remarks she had made. I am surprised she was even on the Committee to be honest.

She told MPs:

“I wholeheartedly apologise to this house for the words I used before I became a member. I accept and understand that the words I used caused upset and hurt to the Jewish community and I deeply regret that.”

She quit her role as a parliamentary assistant to the shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, on Tuesday and was summoned on Wednesday morning to a meeting with Corbyn, who told her the comments were “offensive and unacceptable”. Corbyn accepted she no longer held those views.

But shadow energy secretary, Lisa Nandy, was among Labour figures saying the party faced “real problems” if it was seen not to apply the same standards to MPs as to other activists.

John Woodcock, MP and former chair of the Labour Friends of Israel, said: “The handling of this has been a mess. But the most important thing is that the Labour leadership properly acknowledges now the scale of the antisemitism problem that is growing in the party.”

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/27/naz-shah-suspended-labour-party-antisemitism-row

It would be interesting to see what the response of those who dispute that the Labour Party has a problem with anti semitism would be if the word Jewish was replaced by disabled, black, female, lesbian/gay/transgender, asian, muslim etc.

Good post Iam,

It seems the Corbynites are not concerned with defending the Labour Party but Corbyn though, just shows the two are seperate

Those who won't accept that Labour has a problem with anti-semitism are in denial: always a worrying sign.

As Corbyn is the leader of the Labour Party the two things become mixed up.A good leader aknowledges a problem and deals with it.

rosesarered, I am having a problem with all this , Corbyn is a Labour Party member ! I am a Labour Party member, the labour MP's on the select committee are Labour Party members, the Labour MP's who have been attacked are members,

Who are the racists?

I have never as far as I can see posted that there is no problem with antisemitism in the Labour party. I have questioned the validity of a report which acknowledges there are problems in ALL political parties and then goes on to make many points about one of them. To my mind that is not a balanced view. This is further reinforced when you read more of the report, look at some of the evidence acknowledged in it, and wonder why there is no accompanying recommendations for the political party involved. When the political party not mentioned has the largest number of MPs involved, has a leader who did not give evidence, sent the UK Special Envoy for Post Holocaust Matters who was ignorant about an anti-Semitic incident in his own party the whole thing stinks to high heaven.
By all means condemn antisemitism in the Labour party, although I would like to see the blame for the lack of leadership shared by all those MPs who wasted time and energy on pursuing an unnecessary leadership contest, but don't regard this as a balanced report when there are such huge holes in it.

If there are as the report said anti-Semitic issues in all parties and you are concerned about antisemitism wouldn't it be better to fully acknowledge this and to ask all parties to look at what is happening?
I really object to the way this is becoming a case of "we are better than you are" and of the way it is becoming a way of raising the issue of Corbyn as leader again.
There is a problem with antisemitism. The conduct of Israel and the situation of the Palestinian people have caused many people to become politically involved, and in some cases this may have slipped over into anti-Semitism. This is understandable, but not acceptable, ways need to be found to help prevent this happening- this to my mind is the basis for most of the anti-Semitism found in the Labour party.
The Conservative problem is slightly different it seems to be an older form of anti-Semitism relying on concepts about Jewish influence and physical appearance.
Both of these are of concern and need to be dealt with.