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Durhamjen people voted to leave the EU for many reasons. Controlling our borders was one of them. That does not make a person a racist, what a condescending statement to make.

If May was serious about controlling the immigrants she could stop it by 50% tomorrow as that represents immigration from outside the EU.

She's hardly going to start doing things like that before we've even left the EU!

Why not? If this is one area which can be controlled now. Seems logical to me if they think immigration is such a major issue.

And provoke the redoubled ire of the Remain lot? I don't think so...

But aren't we talking about a majority here who wants immigration to cease?

No, they want is controlled, big difference!

It, not is!

WE have always controlled immigration from outside the EU. We could have stopped it years ago. So I'm afraid that saying that Theresa May is hardly going to stop 50% of immigration before we left the EU is quite meaningless.

I'm really not sure what the folks who wanted less immigration really wanted as there seemed to be no distinction between EU people exercising their right to free movement within the EU (those who were most likely to have jobs here and contributing more to the economy in tax than they ever took out in beneifits) and those migrating here from outside the EU, who were really more likely to bring dependents with them and possibly put some pressure on public services. The second lot we've always had 'control' over.

So what exactly do all these 'I'm not racist but..' folks who didn't vote out because of immigration but who seem to be approving T May's assertion that people voted leave because of immigration, actually want? All foreigners out? Non EU foreigners out? EU foreigners out? Or just exercise of tighter control where we already had the power to do so?

Someone I know said she voted Leave because she thought there were too mahy Somalis in Bristol.

Firstly, how many is too many?

Most of these people were refugees or the British born children of refugees.

This has nothing to do with the EU.

Perhaps the Remain campaign should have made a much bigger point of saying just that at the time, then - in nice, simple language for all those thicko Leave voters to understand.

(to MaizieD*)

Perhaps we should, Ana. But I doubt it would have made the slightest difference. Especially as apparently the Leave vote wasn't about immigration at all.. so the Leavers say...

According to durhamjen

Many people who voted for Brexit have said they are xenophobic and racist. They do not want foreigners here. Are you denying that has been said?

Do you know a single xenophobe who voted to remain, because I don't.
And don't tell me you don't know any xenophobes because I don't believe you.

I never said it was the only reason, Firecracker, but just read the papers to see how many people are saying they don't want foreigners here. Doesn't the problem with Calais make you realise how nasty to foreigners many people are?

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/10/23/what-cutting-corporation-tax-to-10-would-mean-for-the-uk/

I love the first sentence here. Any idea who he means?

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Poundland suffering from Brexit?

durhamjen 12.13

"Most of us do not know much about Switzerland. We read whay granjura says as she lives there and seems quite intelligent enough to know what is happening both there and here.

Why do we need to compare Switzerland with the UK?"

Fortunately ' some of us' DO understand that there is debate/discussion to be had concerning other countries and their relationship with the EU. I have obviously found it interesting to mention what is happening between Switzerland's Referendum and Canada's Agreement for example, also the up and coming elections in Germany, France and Italy.

Now you may elect to ignore points that have been raised re the problems Switzerland are having with the EU but don't assume we all want to shut down debate because we 'don't need to compare ' Switzerland with Brexit. Perhaps some of us like to widen debate than stick with the Remain Mantra everything is going tits up because of Brexit alone, it isn't.

I suppose the reality is talking about Switzerland having similar problems with the EU, the elections to come, doesn't fit the remit some hold of talking about anything other than the UK/Brexit being the only cause of problems in the EU.

You also asked :-

"Do you know a single xenophobe who voted to remain, because I don't."

Yes you do ME.!

I voted Remain but according to some posters the fact I believe in restricting the number of immigrants , control of immigration numbers , makes me a xenophobic racist in their eyes, yours included.

Durhamjen I suppose you would like all the Calais jungle migrants shipped over here. Some looked very desirable fighting and throwing stones at the police. How naive some people are.

So pogs do you think it would be sensible for May to begin to sort out the immigration from outside the EU? It is completely within her remit and has been for a numb er of years

As this country is SO mean minded, xenophobic, and hopfully for some people, facing bankruptcy, why on earth would anyone refugee or otherwise, want to come to the UK? Baffling really!!!

Give it time niggly

Give what time? You mean the UK might not be going bankrupt at all? Or do you mean no one will want to come here anyway soon?

What I mean is that the pull factors will get less and less year on year as the effect of Brexit begin to bite.