Government must have vote on Brexit

Annie, it was suggested when Mair first started posting that she had chosen the name deliberately as some sort of tribute to that despicable person...

Shelagh Foggerty just now on LBC made the excellent point that people need to try to understand each others views, rather than just condemning those who disagree as ignorant, uneducated, fooled, tricked, brainwashed, left behind etc. This was following a very well expressed call by an Irish supporter of Trump (bit of a division of loyalties there for Shelagh LOL)

When one side are reluctant to say just what their views are however, while attacking those whose views they plainly dont share, reaching even mutual understanding, if not agreement, is difficult.

We are all old enough here that at least trying to understand each other should be within the wisdom we'd all like to think we have gained over the years.

Amen to that.

Seems unlikely that Mair the criminal would have this amount of internet access for so many hours a day.
Mair GN has been an apologist for him on this site though, citing that there were reasons why he assassinated Jo Cox other than the one which the judge chose to believe.

I don't really want to understand the minds of racist bigots and murderers.

The silence on the murder in the Quebec mosque is deafening. Awww! Maybe he had some kind of mental health condition. Poor lamb!

Thank you Ana. Sorry Mair

True Daphne, he may have a mental health condition

If the minds of racists and bigots are ignored how will we ever learn what causes their hatred

You chose to post an aggresive comment on the very day GNHQ put a reminder to be civil on here Jess what is going on with some of you? It certainly looks like an orchestrated attack by drip drip drip against a Gransnet member.

Never judge a book by its cover. Appearances can be deceptive roses.

By the way, do you you're not part of a clique. I must admit that surprises me.

JessM was just stating a fact. It was hardly an aggressive comment.

dd you say the silence on the murders in the mosques in Quebec is deafening.....
where? It's in the news, have heard and seen reports several times on tv and radio.
Did you mean on Gransnet? Start a thread then, this one is about Brexit.

Why do you think LucyGransnet issued a reminder about being civil on here?Just for the fun of it?

Not listening to 'racists' and 'bigots' ( not my words) got us, Europe, and the USA to the place we are at now.

There are some GN members with more extreme views than Mair, but they post infrequently on the political threads and always get blasted with both barrels.

It does seem that some on the left can't bear the fact that someone is actually still allowed to be on GN who dares to disagree with their views...

As for this

By the way, do you you're not part of a clique. I must admit that surprises me.

Can't make head nor tail of it!

Nor me!

Seems unlikely that Mair the criminal would have this amount of internet access for so many hours a day
No of course he wouldnt.
If he did do you really think he'd
a) Use his surname?
b) Chose to post on Gnet?

I note Jess is also still attempting to taunt by refusing to comply with my request to refer to the murderer Thomas Mair as TMair.
One can only assume that this is deliberate and she intends to create ambiguity by using the name in the context above.

Mair GN has been an apologist for him on this site though, citing that there were reasons why he assassinated Jo Cox other than the one which the judge chose to believe

No Jess that does not make me an 'apologist' but given that TMair chose not to defend himself in court it is clear that the judge had a very incomplete picture of his motives.

The other reasons suggested for the murder do not in any way excuse what he did and would unlikely have won him a shorter sentence.

So again Jess one can only conclude that your ridiculous dubbing of me as an 'apologist' is designed to taunt.

This is in open defiance of Gransnets request.
Shameful.

Is there any doubt that he committed the murder?

Not aggressive. Factual. Do report if you think I am transgressing Forum Guidelines.
If there are a number of GN members who find another member's posts abhorrent and lacking in what we see as British values then should we form an orderly queue and have a rota? So that only one person allowed to disagree with that member on any one day?
Those of us to whom you allude don't go around accusing people of being "far right" "extremist" etc
We leave name-calling to the member who thinks that all the ordinary decent people who have signed the anti-Trump-State-Visit petition are members of some kind of global extremist plot? All 1.7million of us.

Roses said

dd you say the silence on the murders in the mosques in Quebec is deafening.....
where? It's in the news, have heard and seen reports several times on tv and radio
Did you mean on Gransnet? Start a thread then, this one is about Brexit

Quite Roses

And re the Mosque murder, the skin colour, "white,"and ethnic descent, "French Canandian", of the murderer has already been openly stated in our PC press. Can you imagine that being revealed at such an early stage in the case if he were brown or black?

- A white university undergraduate

No, not factual at all....did you not read the above post?and who are you Jess to decide who has British values and who does not and what they can put into their posts, the sheer arrogance!

You have been an apologist for Mair and his values since you started posting Mair.

What do you think of Alexandre Bissonnette, the Quebec mosque murderer? Is he a misunderstood creature too?

Divisive language mair and unnecessarily confrontational.

Yes, that 'what we see as British values' comment was really cringeworthy.

Yes, it was factual roses.

You're a fine one to talk about what people can write in their posts!