UKIP leader

Taking my head away from the pc and going to watch the telly now!
I can hear laughter in the other room

We had a lovely afternoon, meeting up with old friends so why am I on here?

Rocks? What rubbish!

Suzie said
all of the schools nearby...
native British are a majority. By native British, I am including second and third generation black and Asian British children

And in doing so you are creating a contradiction in terms.
We are speaking of the ethnicity of children in London schools, and if children are 'native British' by ethnicity , then, by default, they are not 'Asian British' or 'black British'.

You are choosing to misuse the description 'native' to designate only birthplace, and since you know that the discussion was about ethnicity of children in London schools, NOT whether they were British or foreign born, you are clearly deliberately trying to muddy the waters and divert the discussion.

If discussing the ethnicity of President Obama and President Trump you would not describe them as 'native Americans' based on their birthplace, that descriptive is reserved for those of indigenous American descent. Kindly accord the same respect to the indigenous people of Britain and other European countries.

So back to your observations about your local schools, I think we can safely conclude that the ethnic majority British i.e. native British, have already fallen to ethnic minority status in all your local schools. I am not surprised!

Jalima
I am not sure what point you are making with your story of racial discrimination iN Bristol fifty years ago?

MY argument was not that there was no racial discrimination,there was, but that the particular 'sign' which has been so overused for propaganda purposes over the years was either just a 'one off' or even possibly a set up. There is just no evidence for its existence.

Boing! Boing!

Not sure what that means, whitewave

You are wrong, Mair. There's plenty of evidence, even if only anecdotal.

Sorry, I know I've spoken out for your right to give your opinions on here but it's just ridiculous to keep on denying what is true.

MB
I am assuming that the official UKIP briefing notes have advised accordingly

You're very presumptuous aren't you?
MY comments are my own and do not represent the views of UKIP or any other political party.

What about yours? Which party do you represent?

That's the rocks landing sorry I know you won't approve but I couldn't resist.

"You are wrong, Mair. There's plenty of evidence, even if only anecdotal"

Sorry Ana but even the anecdotal evidence is Chinese whispers. Do you actually KNOW anyone in RL, not on a message board or heard on the radi , who saw a replica of this very sign?

I fully accept there were signs designating that boarding houses didnt take a particular ethnic group, but not that this particular nasty sign linking the 'no dogs' to two ethnic groups was a common sight across London.

Actually Mair the preferred term is 'American Indians'.

www.nativetimes.com/index.php/life/commentary/11389-native-american-vs-american-indian-political-correctness-dishonors-traditional-chiefs-of-old

"So if you travel to any Indian reservation out west you will soon discover that nearly all of the indigenous people refer to themselves as "Indian," especially the elders who are still fluent in their Indian language. As Chief Oliver Red Cloud said a few years before he died, "I am Lakota and I am Indian."

As an Indian newspaper we must be very careful that what we call ourselves is not dictated to us by the white media. We have been Indians for a few hundred years and the name carries our history. Crazy Horse, Sitting Bull and Little Wound (Read their quotes) all called themselves "Indian" and they said it with pride. Should we dishonor them by saying they were wrong?

Political correctness be damned: We will use "Indian" if and when we choose. We will not be intimidated by the politically correct bunch or the white media."

'Native' refers to where someone was born. It's from the Latin, you know.

Oh talk about dogs with bones. Do we care? We know that the Commonwealth immigrants struggled to be accepted and experienced racism back in the post-war years. As did the large numbers of Irish people who came here to work in the construction industry. The Irish rebuilt London in the ruins of the blitz and built the motorways of Britain. They were often terribly exploited, being paid "off the book" by subcontractors. They tended to be single men, coming from rural areas. They are the only immigrant group to "suffer worse outcomes" as a result of moving to mainland Britain. That is why, on monitoring forms, they are a different category.
Some of you may be familiar with this heartbreaking song by Ralph McTell - here's and extract of the lyrics:

I sometimes hear the fiddles play, maybe it's just a notion
I dream I see white horses dance upon that other ocean
It's a long way from Clare to here
It's a long way from Clare to here
It's a long, long way
It get's further by the day
It's a long, long way from Clare to here

WW
Youll be pleased to know I am bored with this discussion now.

There is only so much head banging against walls even us old battle axes can do hey?

MiceElf. I left Greenwich for Southend on sea in 1968. I see that the person you refer to was mayor in 1990-1991. The politics of Greenwich weren't on my radar

JaneA
Happy to call indigenous/native/ethnic Americans 'Indians'! I didnt realise it was back in fashion.

No Mair, I admit I hadn't been aware of the 'no dogs' before. It does seem odd, as who on earth would have sought lodgings in those days with a dog in tow?

The 'no blacks' and 'no Irish' posters were certainly openly displayed though.

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LOL DJ Brilliant.

3 by elections today in councils, two in Rotherham.
One seat gained by Labour from UKIP.
One seat gained by LibDems from Labour.
Third seat in Staffs was a Tory hold.

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Yes, Jess, some people are so clever, aren't they?
Do you think it could catch on? It's a problem with UKIP, and Nuttall in particular.
One of the reasons he is being investigated by the EU is that he had money sent to his office in Liverpool which turned out to be a PO box, not an office.

Do you think it might be kind to let poor bewildered Mair go to bed with an easy mind by letting him/her know that "No blacks no dogs no Irish" is a song title?

Local elections, labour took seat from UKIP, Libs took seat from Labour in Rotherham but labour support slipped , Libs gained a 50% increase in vote share. Tory's held a a seat in East Stafford with 0.3 - Lab 0.3 - UKIP were third but with 17.7+

NewStstesman claim labour has lost 7000 members this week

It's a UKIP thread, Annie, not a let's knock Labour thread.

You must agree that UKIP did not do very well, but you won't will you? Much better to knock Labour.

Jess, it was also the title of an article in the Telegraph before the last election, saying that that was what Farage wanted to bring back.
I can't understand how Mair can only get it on left wing sites, unless the Telegraph has changed ownership.

Sadly Mair you are totally wrong - the notices were hand written and usually in block capitals and simply had four words on the paper - NO BLACKS NO IRISH. I have not made a mistake - I was in my twenties and was totally horrified. The only people from the Carribean I ever came across at that time worked on the tube or on London Transport buses and they were happy, smiling and helpful people! The notices were the most disgusting things.

Have you read Small Island.?