Article 50

By the way, he's supposed to be working for Fox, but the US won't give him a work permit, so I read today.

Wonderful!

Was he born in a Muslim country?

No, he doesn't have the right qualifications for a work permit. Apparently the USA only takes the brightest and the best when looking at someone wanting to get into journalism!

A bit late for this look at the history of Britain and Europe, but it makes me despair of what's happening now.

theconversation.com/not-long-ago-there-was-a-british-european-identity-so-what-happened-69482

MPs back government's Brexit bill by 498 votes to 114. It's all changed for good now. 47 Labour MPs voted against including 3 whips and there were some abstensions.

Afterthought - wonder how this affects Corbyn's tenure.

Probably not at all. Most Labour supporters agree that he did what he had to do.
They've voted against, but will not have the whip taken away from them, so no need to rebel further.
Corbyn never once had the whip taken away from him despite the number of times he voted against the party line.

Well Article 50 was passed by 498 votes to 114 so it is now presumably going to be triggered in March.

Now we will witness political shenanigans for sure.

As I mentioned before, there are three more potential court cases lined up to delay the process - they won't give in without a fight.

There are very rich and powerful people backing the Bremainers. It's ironic that so many lefties are too, and points to the growing meaninglessness of 'right' and 'left' as a political spectrum.

Now lets get on with our future.

Absolutely grannyp although there are still hurdles before the end of March!

Corbyn must be celebrating, he has always wanted out, the morning following the result he said it must be carried out quickly, no delaying

It was always inevitable that it would be passed. I still think it was right that it was debated by Parliament and correct processes followed. Some of the arguments have been fascinating and deserved an airing.

Well this isn't the final vote on the bill although few will think it can be stopped now. There are several more stages and it's got to go through the Lords yet.

BJ says on Fb, 'We're leaving EU treaties, we're not leaving Europe.'

Anyone know what he means?

DD I agree. Some very powerful speeches from both sides of the house and one or two who would have been struggling in a High School debate.

But it was right that it was debated and the MPs allowed a vote.

It was becoming a bit repetitive towards the end, though. It was if every single MP wanted to justify his/her vote.

Apparently Diane Abbot was too poorly to vote.

Quite a few didn't vote. Mine didn't either. There's a list somewhere.

Quite interesting to read the list of Labour MP's who voted against triggering Article 50.

My 'perception' was for the most part they were London Area MP's, Wales MP's , University Towns and very few Labour Heartland MP's.

Nottingham, Liverpool, Wakefield, Stockport?
Only gone down to Cs, Mary Creagh.
One of the Eagle twins voted for, one against. I wonder if they planned that.

Why would the Eagle sisters plan one for one against? Are sisters not capable of making their own decisions without approval from their sibling ? What would they gain?

No idea. That's why I said I wonder....

POGS Why wouldn't MPs for Scotland, London, the cities and university towns represent their constituents if their belief coincided with their own views?

I would have hoped that my own MP had defied his party whip and voted with his conscience, but sadly he didn't (he's an ardent Europhile). The split in this constituency was almost 50/50, so he voted the way he did for party political reasons. Isn't party politics what so many people are voting against?

However this works out, I believe it is totally wrong that everything should be done in secret and rubber stamped by a dozen or so cabinet members. That's the route to dictatorship.

Apparently Diane Abbot was too poorly to vote

Hilarious!!
Didnt want to lose favour with her old boyf!