Article 50

And won't Remainers just love it if the Labour party does just that (comfortably or otherwise)? Clutching at straws, yet again...

Welshwife most of those who voted to leave did not vote to stop immigration. Just listen to those on GN who have said this quite clearly. They voted to control unlimited immigration and are more than happy to welcome workers that are needed in this country.

Well, Ana, perhaps you had better tell us all exactly what you want to happen with Brexit. You are keen to tell us what you think shouldn't happen.

Theresa May said the brightest and the best are welcome to come. The farmer who is going to lose all his workers does not want the brightest and the best to pick the fruit and veg next year.

Well, durhamjen, perhaps you had better tell us all exactly how putting Brexit off indefinitely is going to be good for the country? Or don't you care as long as you get your own way?

That may well be trueAnya but almost without exception people 'from the street' I have seen interviewed on TV about reasons for voting as they did have quoted immigration as being the biggest issue - some if them quite nastily too.

i don't think Ana has the ear of the PM and her cabinet DJ.

It's rather ironic you harking on about negativity when I've yet to read anything positive in your posts yet - on any thread.

Putting it off a bit ana gives them time to recruit and train people fir all the extras they are going to need in various places - Customs and Border control being probably top if the list
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4156922/UK-firms-face-crippling-costs-outside-customs-union.html?ito=email_share_article-bottom

Of course immigration is the biggest issue -uncontrolled immigration. Forget the type of person who is undoubtedly racist, uneducated and hasn't a clue. They claim that 'they (?) are taking our jobs' when many of them haven't done a days work in their lives.

The average, thinking Brexiteer, wanted to control immigration not stop essential workers. Everyone with half a brain cell knows we need health workers, people to pick crops, more chefs for my favourite Balti house etc. Personally I'd laugh my socks off if these racist layabouts were forced into the fields at harvest time to earn their benefits

At the end of the day parliament voted to give the referendum vote to the people and everyone had an equal chance of voting and the majority vote was to leave the EU. If vote given to people then their voice should be respected. Labour are in a tough position as they had constituents vote to leave and remain in almost equal proportion. If Labour supporters in Brexit areas see Labour MP's vote against the Bill then they are likely to vote against Labour at next General Election. Really the best option to me would be to support Bill to trigger Brexit as all MP's will get final vote over package deal offered whether to accept or reject and walk away with just WTO terms. Most effort needs to go into building up good trade deals with rest of the world which will ultimately determine our wealth as a nation.

Anya I voted to Brexit and I am not racist or uneducated as I have three degrees. I just think necessary immigration should be from rest of world and not just EU countries. Also we pay in very high contribution compared with what we receive out of EU. I work with students and know many who cannot get a job partly because of high immigration. I agree we need health workers etc but if we did not cap how many of our own students could study for nursing and other health related courses then we would not need to import so many nurses. The year before last I had three students wanting to do a nursing degree but due to cap only one got accepted, keen students with three good A levels in the end had to choose other careers because not able to study nursing. Maybe you are too quick to stereotype those who voted Brexit without knowing their motivation.

And newnanny to uphold the will of the people, at least that's what one of the 'expert' speakers on Radio 4 was saying.

I'm not too quick to do anything newnanny I think about things carefully and I think you've actually misinterpreted my post too.

newnanny 3 degrees some people are just plain greedy !!!!!! Well done you though. Are they all related?

The cap on nursing students has been abolished according to this article from 2015 what has been cut is the grant to nurses to train.

newnanny I assume you are one of those I referred to as 'the average, thinking Brexiteer' ....with all those degrees i would have thought you'd have been able to understand my point

newnanny I assume you are aware that non-EU immigration continues to exceed EU immigration in this country.

Would think it very likely that Stoke will elect the awful Nutell .it is a very deprived area which has lost all of its industry over the years. It has also become quite racist. UKIP know how to press all the right buttons to sway the people of Stoke. Unfortunately.

That is so depressing morgana

Morgana
Do you know Stoke and its people well?

The farmer who is going to lose all his workers does not want the brightest and the best to pick the fruit and veg next year.

That is rather a sweeping statement about the intelligence of farm workers, many of whom are temporary or seasonal.

How many are doing that job just to earn money before they go back home again - perhaps to go on to study etc, or as a stepping stone to a better job here or elsewhere?

"I don't think Ana has the ear of the PM and her cabinet DJ."

Ana doesn't need that to tell us what she thinks, Anya.

Jalima, that's not what is going to happen, though, is it?
After Brexit, we are not going to allow people in just to pick fruit and veg. Those are the ones Brexiteers want to keep out, so that the lazy British who take unemployment benefits can have the work. It's going to be all change in two years time, didn't you know?

By the way, Anya, don't forget that you have occasionally said you agree with me. Aberrations, obviously.

I wasn't commenting on that, just the slur on seasonal farm workers whom you assumed are not the brightest or best.
You may be right that some are not nuclear scientists etc but some may be - and earning during their holidays.

Never assume anything.