Reluctant to join the discussion.

Thank you Ankers it was worth a go.

Thank Jalima. Sometime I think this forum exists in a parallel world. Actually, reading Anker's post after yours I now know the forum is from a parallel world

We just have to accept no matter how much good effort is put into a thread up will pop one who want to make personal attacks, such a pity

I agree ab.... it seems that it's just life.

GGM2 'the glass doors' was from a comedy classic from Corbyn, the episode where he hides froma reporter asking a question, whilst two attractive young women shield him from such effrontery and attempt to black out the camera by holding papers against the lens.The best episode of the series!

I'm looking forward to the next series, he can always be relied upon to raise a laugh, whatever else is going on in the world!

Lol roses I know I've said it before, but it's worth repeating ' he's the gift that keeps on giving'

Wish he would stop wearing that damn hat , I keep expecting a young Tom Courtney to appear , Dr Shivargo and all that - up the revaluation ,

Yes, anniebach and, come the revolution brother, the Rolls Royce is mine.

I think it's Wadge, but on the other hand Wodge is also sighted! So I suppose it can be either!!
ab, I expect he thinks he looks cool and up to the minute in that hat poor soul, and who are we to burst that bubble?!!!!

and it is supposed to read:
a big wodge not a bit wodge!
or wadge

Well, I wish he would stop wearing it, he looks a plonker and I adore Tom Courtney.

He is to choose his new shadow cabinet this week, beggers the question, take the number who voted against the whip, add the number who will not join his shadow cabinet , the number of empty positions still waiting to be filled from the second attempt, not spoilt for choice is he.

Do you think D Abbott will be overcome by illness next time there's a vote? I know, my guess is as good as yours! but it's certainly looking a bit tricky and, look at it what way you will, it's not good in more ways than one! We really could do with some proper thoughtful meaningful debate, not point scoring, not shouting, (on all sides!) but decent conversation and pooled ideas to get a satisfactory deal both for us and Europe. Surely that's not asking the impossible?!

Seems Corbyn is not going to sack anyone who votes against the whip at the next vote, he claims he is a very lenient person. Wasn't lenient when he sacked Hilary Benn was he. I do have a problem with hypocrisy

So enforcing the whip but no matter if it is ignored , solves the problem of trying to fill shadow cabinet posts for the third time in less than two years

I too hate hypocrisy wherever it comes from, but sadly these days it's seems rife on all fronts.

I don't know about him being a hypocrite, I think it's more that he means well, but has no tactical political instinct whatsoever. He seems to react on impulse.
imo anyway.

he seems to react on impulse so do jelly fish.

Meant to add, both useless articles.

When he was elected I said that I felt he was probably a decent man but was elected beyond his abilities and he is now so out of his depth he is practically drowning.

He is useless but long may be reign.

If he acts on impulse then he no different to Trump, I do not mean his politics, speaks/acts before thinking of the consequences and it was not impulse which caused him to plot against a leader and party activists,

I think voting Remain was hypocritical, when everyone knows that JC had been anti the EU all his political life!

He's very odd and contradictory, isn't he?

He orders his party members to vote for the government's bill, but isn't going to take any disciplinary action if they went against that instruction.

It seems he is giving tacit permission to them to do the same at any time in the future, so what's the point of him being leader?

Threatening his MPs at all is a bit bizarre bearing in mind that he consistently over many years defied the Labour leadership - again contradictory behaviour?

He went in Holiday during the campaign leading to the referendum and refused to appear in tv debates , yet other labour MP's are criticised by corbynites for not supporting him. I am accused here if having a personal vendetta against the man

I have more respect for the Tory , green and lib leaders than I could have for him