Can the Tories be trusted with OUR National Health Service

Today should have been the only day when the elderly were not blamed for what is happening in the NHS.
One article was headed "Ageing British mothers add to strain on NHS resources".
You really couldn't make it up, could you.
I tell you, the knives are out.

Nobody can find soemthing if it is not on google!
what did we do before Google?
I found a lost earring once.

Google doesn't have a monopoly . There are other sources of information. Books in non-fiction libraries include printed statistics of all kinds of things. a phone call to the appropriate place asking a specific question will get a specific answer.

What on earth did we do before the internet? We learnt how to find facts in books, that is what.

When I was a volunteer with a small charity, someone heard of an organisation which supplied packets of sweets for charities to sell to make money (you had to buy them in bulk then sell them at a profit). Someone suggested we do that. It sounded a great moneymaker, but I said I would check on it first.

This was before Google. I went to the library, found figures on how many sweets people buy and how often, what a reasonable markup was, and the difference between turnover and profit. I did some sums and worked out that to make anything worth having, we would have to sell them in large quantities and as a regular thing, to strangers outside supermarkets, at our work-places, school playgrounds.

There were only a few able-bodied people who would be up to doing all that, and they were already overworked doing the other fundraising activities we ran. Without that research we would have been tied in to expense upfront and not got it back for at least a year, let alone made any funds.

But it wasn't spoonfed - I had to work at it and find out information. It was all there in the Central Library and up-to-date stuff is there still. You've to use your noddle about where to find things out.

I try to never use google. I find www.inews.co.uk quite informative without using google. In fact, I try to avoid google on purpose because they don't pay their taxes properly.

In fact, if it wasn't for companies like google and starbucks, etc., our NHS would probably not be in the mess it is.

They are talking about reducing face-to-face appointments. However, the chairman of the RCGP said that video-link doctors appointments could increase their workloads.
A ten minute appointment takes ten minutes, whether over the phone or face-to-face. After the phone appointment the GP might need to see the patient anyway, so it would have been less time-consuming if the first appointment had been face to face.

My grandson was laughing very hard at the idea of a robot checking his teeth yesterday instead of a dentist. He likes the robot face and eyes. Mind, whenever he sees a train he talks about its face and eyes.

I looked something up on Google recently to complete a crossword - DH said that was 'cheating' and that my DB used to complete crosswords before Google. However, DB used to sit with a pile of dictionaries, reference books by the side of his chair - and always finished the crossword!

inews.co.uk/nhs/nhs-cuts-excess-deaths-danny-dorling/

Tories definitely to blame for this.

Jalima, I have a dictionary next to me as I type.

DJ I take your point, but the tax gap doesn't seem to have been increasing over the last two years. I'm also a bit confused about his £120bn figure when we've been talking about £34bn. In any event as I said I'm totally with you about chasing the missing money, but much less confident that employing more people will be cost effective. There will always be a point at which that just doesn't help much, if at all.

Of course there will come a point when it is not cost effective, but we are nowhere near that yet.

£34 billion is what can be collected easily. The rest takes more time and effort, and tracing, but it's there. So even the base would pay for the NHS black hole of £22 billion. It makes me wonder why they do not want to even collect that. Must be because their friends will be affected.

Most of the stuff we talk about on here needs up to date figures.
If something is in a book, it is likely to be already old!

dj gets lots of her links and other things from emails that are posted to her.

So when she quotes from them, they sometimes cannot be checked and verified.

We are supposed to go to the library to check something that dj was sent yesterday via her emails?!

Go to the library!

I keep having to double check mine. I think it now opens mon, wed and fri and half day sat! Or something like that?!

I dont think they are going to want me ringing them up 10 times a day!

Up to date figures from where? Do you seriously think that data produced by the government or anywhere else for that matter is accurate?

inews.co.uk/nhs/doctor-wont-see-now-plan-save-nhs-reducing-face-face-care/

inews.co.uk/nhs/telehealth-will-make-prisoner-home/

Our durhamjen is at it again

inews.co.uk/nhs/pressure-smokers-obese-steer-patients-private-healthcare/

Should please the government, those who want it to be privatised.

inews.co.uk/nhs/mobile-phone-device-helping-reduce-ae-admissions/

As if GPs don't have enough work.

well I'm a smoker and i can categorically state that with all the tax I've paid on my fags, i pay for myself and one other person on the nhs!

inews.co.uk/nhs/revealed-nhs-gp-recruitment-crisis-40-approach-retirement/

This will be in tomorrow's inews.

Ankers, just google for the information you want. Dictionaries were fine for crosswords etc in the olden days!

www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2017/02/13/card-readers-on-hospital-beds-how-immigration-hysteria-broke

0.38% of the NHS budget.

And everything you find will be true and correct Do none of you think that stats are doctored to say what the person publishing them wants everyone to think? Do you not actually look around yourselves to see what is really going on?

Well, are we supposed to rely on durhamjen's links?

How can you 'look around you' and determine what percentage of this, that and the other is causing the downfall of the NHS?

nhap.org/event/second-reading-of-the-nhs-reinstatement-bill/

Second reading of the NHS reinstatement bill next Friday.
You can email your MPs and ask them to be there, but only if they support the bill, please.

We all know that the nhs is in crisis but guess what, this type of institution will never have enough funding.

The main reason for this is very very simple.... too many people. You can read a thousand articles but it still boils down to too many people using the service.