Tony Blair

And Boris hasn't lied?
Trump won't invite him, one thing Tony has always been strong on is the environment and global warming.
Do you really think Boris is content with his 'good job' rar? Because I think he is manoeuvring himself into position ready to take over.

it was also the will of a lot of politicians.

Just dipping in and out at the moment as I'm busy, but I'm surprised at this comment. As I recall, commentators on the A50 debates in Parliament noted that MP after MP got up to say that they disagreed with the Leave vote, that leaving the EU was bad, even disasterous, for the UK. That they voted for the Bill had nothing to do with agreement with Brexit.

MPs do still count as 'politicians', don't they?

I have read all of Blair's speech and, whatever I think of the man who delivered it, I agree with just about every word of it.

(Now back to the garden...)

Boris hasn't been responsible for taking us into a war that not only cost the lives and well being of hundreds our brave men and women, but the same horrors for thousands of innocent civillians in the middle east! Boris isn't responsible for the somewhat slanted deal in NI! Can TB not see or understand that no one is going to believe him, whatever makes him think that they will?!! If we did, then he would be right, we would be ignorant and stupid! Being taken for a potential ride yet again by this person would be foolish in the extreme!
Of course politicians have deceived us in the past - Suez come to mind, the Profumo affair and no doubt many other incidences, but the two named, both very serious matters, caused the resignation of the then PM, Eden, and in Macmillans case, brought down the government. In other words, the buck stopped at the top, and the top had the humility to 'carry the can!'
This man (TB) seems to have no sense of remorse, sense of right and wrong, or even any vague admission of responsibility! I think he and Trump would make a 'pigeon pair', it's hard to work out who is the most egotistical, nothing to choose between them!!

Oh and nigglynellie much as I hate Blair the Northern Ireland Agreement was one of the great achievements of his government (thanks to Mo Mowlam) . There was sectarian violence on both sides- not just the IRA but the Loyalist groups as well.

I was a bit baffled by the reference to Northern Ireland as a 'slanted deal' too. The situation over the last two decades has been a million times better than it was before. Compromising is the grown up solution.

Boris has never been PM. He's had the luxury of sitting on the sidelines and making jokes.

Of course it was, but at what cost to our own troops? Don't know about you but for me an atrocity is an atrocity whoever commits it and the person whoever they are should be pursued. For one side to have an amnesty and not the other is just not right. I know about the ends justifying the means , but you tell that to the families/ recipients of IRA violence and to soldiers who rightly or wrongly stand to be accused and dragged through the courts for an accusation that happened so long ago and I think they might just feel a tiny bit 'bitter'? Amnesty should be for all or none at all.

So are we saying that just because people do not like Tony Blair we should totally ignore what he says? That is as bad as the dismissal of all the experts by the liars of the Leave campaign! And there were enough of those. Those in the Cabinet know that Brexit is the worst thing possible for the majority of the population who will gradually see that they are suffering from a fall in living standards. It will not bother them as many have an independent income or a spouse to provide for them.

It's not that people don't like Tony Blair I think it is that some people don't trust him (me included).

Incidentally, one of the leading lights in the NI Loyalist movement, Jim Dowson, was a member of BNP, Britain First, Knights Templar International (a far right group), was involved with Hungarian right wing groups and his latest role has been to run the 'Patriot News Agency' to help get Trump elected. Amongst the fake news stories it ran were some alleging that Hillary Clinton was involved with paedophilia, Satanism and murder.

Dowson glorified another loyalist called Michael Stone, who was given a life sentence for murdering three people. A number of random Catholics were murdered by Loyalists. Many of them had links with Combat 18, the National Front and British neo-Nazis.

None of them were nice people and Blair did well to get them to reach an agreement.

niggly Would you rather they were still at it, killing each other? Many totally innocent people were killed.

The loyalists did have an amnesty. That's why s**ts like Dowson are still at large.

Jalima That's exactly why I wish he'd retire to a Pacific Island (or somewhere), but it doesn't mean that he's wrong IMO.

I'm sure loyalists did, but the Army didn't!

nigglynellie the deaths concerned were originally investigated by the RUC a body which at the time was notorious for its anti-Catholic views reinforced by its policy of only recruiting Protestants. It seems quite fair that this should be looked at to ensure there was no miscarriage of justice. If the shooting of unarmed civilians is part of what we expect soldiers to do then I suppose your views are justified. Personally I would prefer to see an army which was able to operate without the need to do this. I do think that perhaps it should not just be the soldiers who did the individual shootings on tria,l but also the officers who gave them orders and trained them

dj is right about Blair's millions. No way did he do the Middle East job for zilch, he did it to increase his personal wealth one way or another. I do wonder if he is back in the limelight as the start of an attempt to replace Jeremy Corbyn. He may be yesterday's man to many of us but he's not too old to become Leader again, is he? I reckon he's missing the power and the prestige and this is his attempt at a second coming. Could it really happen?

I was going to suggest a new-style Social Democratic party could arise from the disillusioned in the Labour party, any disillusioned Tories and the uninspiring Liberals Democrats.

Some dynamism is needed but I would not want to give TB an ideas.

No, he's got his eye on a position in the EU. Us leaving will prevent that, hence the action stations!!!

There is one, Jalima. I think Paddy Ashdown has something to do with it.

www.moreunited.uk/

They have voted to support Labour in Stoke.

Sorry to be ageist and I like Paddy, but he's even older than me .....

Tell thst to the victims of Bloody Sunday niggly

Puts on Hard Hat and says:

Irrespective of who is saying it, I agree with a great deal of what TB has said. I am sick of being told, that as a remainer, I need to shut up and put up with it because 'the people have spoken'and I am very frightened by this irresponsible and completely irrational rush to get out of Europe while we have absolutely no idea what lies ahead. I am sick of the lies, and misinformation being peddled by the right wing press ( another point that TB made). I am aware that TB made many, many mistakes, but so did David Cameron who got us into this mess in the first place and then walked off leaving us all to get on with it. We should not let the fact that these things are being said by TB stop us from analysing what he has said, and in my case, agreeing with a lot of it. I hope that he ahs now opened up debate a bit more, those of us who voted to remain need to be listened to also, and at the very least, we need discussion about how it is all going to happen.

Tell it to Mrs McConville's family ab, there were lots of victims.

Well... I'm yet another poster who isn't a fan of Blair, my dislike being based on the war in Iraq. I was pleased when he was elected and I believe his government did some good stuff, much more than either Cameron or May's have to date. I don't trust him and do feel he has a narcissistic personality.

I haven't enjoyed listening or watching the interviews with him on the Brexit issue. However, I think GillT57 is right in her post at 18.18 when she concludes we (as a country) need an open discussion about how Brexit is to happen.

But haven't Gill57 and many more on here been asking for exactly the same thing for months and months? Meanwhile, the Brexit wheels grind on and on...