Open Britain - Hard Brexit

Gill's post 15:19:37

" Part of the separation from Europe will include one major Act of Parliament incorporating into British law the vast majority of this EU legislation. "

Doesn't that point feed into the ' Great Repeal Bill '?

Gilly T's post of 15.19 only says :-

" Actually, Jalima I spoke to a farmer on NYE who told me he had voted to leave the EU as he felt that the restrictions and rules and regulations were stifling production."

Monica said :-

"GillT57 the farmer you spoke to is in for a big disappointment when he realises few of the regulations he was hoping to get rid of are actually going to go."

Obviously Monica has a knowledge of which regulations are going to 'go' and which ones are going to 'stay'.

I come from a farming family (not my parents) and they would like to know as at the moment they are in the dark and hoping for the best.

jackofkent.com/2017/03/why-the-great-repeal-bill-will-in-truth-be-the-great-whitehall-power-grab/

They are all going to stay for now. The Great Repeal Bill doesn't come in until 2019. Then the government has to decide what to keep and what to remove.

instituteforgovernment.cmail19.com/t/r-l-yumjdly-hyijirukdj-u/

Well the Great Repeal Bill ' obviously ' cannot come in before 2019 because until we have left the European Union we are still members and subject to it's rules and regulations.

Whether or not it will be 2019 is subject to how the Negotiations will go. It could be by some miracle before or after 2019. It depends how easy or hard the negotiations go and if all parties accept the need for putting economics, jobs, before politics.

Exactly, POGS. The great repeal bill is meaningless, as we are just going to bring all the EU laws into UK law.
We do not have enough lawyers to work out what happens, so all those Brexiteers who are looking for quick fixes are going to be extremely disappointed for years.

I was talking to a farmer a couple of weeks ago, who is hoping to invest in GPS guided tractors. At the moment, they only work well for arable farming, but they're getting more sophisticated and could solve the problem of post-Brexit shortage of labour. His view (and I don't know how well-informed he is) was that small, efficient farms will go bankrupt and be bought out by the big national companies. He doubted that the government would replace EU farming subsidies, so they all need to become more efficient.

One of the farmers on Countryfile was saying how things such as strawberries cannot be picked by machinery as of course they only pick ripe ones so need a person to assess the ripeness - and other crops are the same.
Large organisations tend not to care for the land as the smaller individual farmers do - we have a lot to thank them for with the way they manage the hedges and ditches and make sure the proper vegetation is growing to soak up extra rainfall etc. It is the farmers who keep the countryside a joy to travel through.

A lot of Gransnetters are talking to farmers.

Don't you talk to any, roses? You live in a small village. There must be some farmers around to talk to.

Yes rosesarered that is because I am surrounded by farmland in my case. Small, efficient, family farms, ( two of whom make a chunk of income from car boot sales. I am concerned by the terms efficiency when used in terms of farming, this usually means a drop in welfare standards and increased use of pesticides, antibiotics and fertilizers. I suppose some of the fruit farmers will revert to pick your own. Hey ho.

Do they actually sell produce at car boot sales Gill?
I don't live in a small village, although there is plenty of farm land around, I have never spoken to a farmer ( never even seen one actually)

What no one has taken into account is that most of the regulations and rules introduced by the EU were regulations and rules that the UK government was in absolute agreement with and would have introduced themselves had not the EU saved them all the bothe. What is more most of them will be staying after Brexit.

As part of the Brexit procedure the government will be bringing before Parliament a Bill to incorporate most of these EU directives and regulations into British law.

Sorry reposted the substance of my previous post because for some reason I couldn't see it for looking and assumed I had forgotten to press the 'post message ' button.

There probably will eventually be machines that can pick strawberries. There already is electronic equipment that can measure the colour of an item and even its softness/hardness. The technology may nopt yet be robust enough for farm equipment, but it will be.

In the next two years ?

In principle I would say it was quite possible. I am sure something similar is being used in the sorting and packing sheds of some of the big fruit and vegetable growers to measure, for example, the amount of redness on an apple to ensure all fruit meets the colour/quality/supermarket silly standards.

Apples and strawberries are quite different things to pick and test.
How long did it take for a robot hand to be developed that did not break an egg?

Who would have believed this?

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/vote-leave-director-admits-won-lied-public/08/02/

All the more reason to cancel the whole wretched enterprise. It will be interesting to see Panorama on Monday evening. I just hope that TM and parliament really do see sense before it is too late.

I know that Article 50 is supposed to be a one way street but the EU and the UK government cannot continue to be so doctrinaire as to throw the baby with the bath water.

From my reading of Article 50 about 2 or 3 years ago, I don't think that it is a one way street. I understood it to be a statement of intention, which will then kick start a period of negotiation. I understood that if the country considering leaving didn't like the resultant offer they could continue as a member.

No point clinging onto faint hopes of continuing in the EU, in fact, there really aren't even any faint hopes.

You wish roses

What? You really think there is hope that we cancel it, like a hospital appointment? Not a case of wishing, it will shortly be a reality.