Open Britain - Hard Brexit

That's a matter of opinion!

Maizie..... Remainers are not haters of their own country, I think we all know that.
However, the diatribe by durhamjen about England and being English seems full of hate , if you are from Yorkshire then you are English. However, it comes as no surprise at all, as durhamjen has voiced similar repugnant comments like this before.
Most of us love our own country so extremist views such as that are in the minority.

Am glad that MetteGransnet has stepped in.....we are all allowed to voice our opinions on here without being rudely told to 'bugger off' or whatever.

I am not extremist. My comments are not repugnant. What is repugnant is people from EU countries being treated, after all this time of us being in the EU, as if they are bargaining chips.

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rose what on earth are you on about? You seem not to read or hear stuff right in front of you, and yet seem to hear and read stuff that isn't there.

Who said "bugger off" and where is the so called diatribe about English?

Modifying your language makes for a much better interchange of opinions you know, without jumping in as you did.

I could say the same for you ww as you didn't read durhamjens post on being English.
Nobody said 'bugger off' but the posts by durhamjen and Rigby were telling me not to post, which is why Mette stepped in.Clear now?

Again, if you want to be associated with the English Defence League, do carry on. Or United Kingdom Independence Party. Or Britain First.

My daughters in law love their own countries. My grandchildren's other grandparents are from those countries. I am not going to tell my grandchildren that England is better than Spain and Denmark, and make them feel as if I do not care about their other relatives.

I watched May giving her article 50 speech. All that making Britain great again made me feel sad, like Barnier looked.
A brighter future for this country, and to make everything fair again?
That could have happened without leaving the EU. Perhaps she ought to start off with the benefits system, to make things fair for those having their benefits cut.

When we applied for residency in another country ( outside the eu) we literally had the papers thrown back at us. This was happening to a lot of other people. Then someone in the immigration office left his post and set up a business filling in all our forms, job done ( and no sweeteners either)
I can't believe no one in this country isn't thinking of doing this.

Who said "bugger off" and where is the so called diatribe about English?
'Being English' could be the other thread whitewave - although there are several threads and I am getting which is which.

And, trying to look at it fairly impartially, I would say that telling someone to for god's sake bloody well give up or telling someone that they hope not to hear your views for a few hours is really rather rude (to put it in an understated 'English' kind of way).

Everyone is entitled to a viewpoint as Mette kindly pointed out.

Oh FGS -*roses*. You say you are going out for the day, then you post, I refer to what you said jokily and this is interpreted as telling you to stop posting??????? Anyone would think you were easily upset - you who wished it would rain on the March? Dish it out but can take it? Might almost want to use the word snowflake

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Again, if you want to be associated with the English Defence League, do carry on. Or United Kingdom Independence Party. Or Britain First.

My daughters in law love their own countries. My grandchildren's other grandparents are from those countries

You can love England without having the slightest association with the EFL or UKIP - just as your DIL can love their own countries without being associated with any far-right groups in either of those countries.

Your two statements appear to be a contradiction in terms djen.

Jalima well the worst and rudest posts I've seen recently here where on the thread about the march- you lot were all at it but none of us ran to HQ did we?

It's 5.30pm Rigby perhaps roses is back from shopping now, home in time for dinner.

some people have a rather strange sense of what is 'jokey'.

Can't say I've ever detected anything even remotely jokey about any of your comments Rigby!!

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No-one has run to GNHQ Rigby but they do keep an eye on threads.

Yup, back from wandering around Oxford now, feet up but mission for DD's clothes a success.
No, nothing jokey about any of your posts to anyone on any thread Rigby

Exactly Jalima I bet none of us ever even give EDL or BNP a thought, and actually Denmark does have a far right faction, as have most EU countries.I can't imagine anyone French saying they are ashamed of their own country, and they don't feel French.

Denmark's far right faction has not taken Denmark out of the EU, though, has it?
At least other EU countries have been frightened off making the far right their governments. Something to thank Brexit for.

I think Brexit and Trump has made everyone think twice, and rightly so.

Jalima You're a bit one-sided with your criticism.

Ah yes! Now I wonder who it was that told me that GN maybe wasn't the site for me, that I wouldn't be welcome at GN meets and that my posts were the cause of peple not posting.

I still have the screenshots, but I believe it would be breaking the rules to post them. I'm sure you agree rosesarered.

KAPOW!!

Not just EU citizens that are bargaining chips.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2017/03/29/theresa-may-blatant-threat-to-link-eu-security-cooperation-with-brexit-trade-deal-yvette-cooper-tim-farron-macpherson_n_15688868.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ir=UK+Politics

This needs to be read in full.