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V.A.T, in school fees

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Anniebach Thu 06-Apr-17 09:58:21

Corbyn has announced he would charge vat on private school fees to pay for free school meals for state school primary children.

Opinions?

Anniebach Mon 10-Apr-17 19:03:04

Come to think of it, not as many hoped fir votes come May , teaching children with dyslexia or all state school children

Fitzy54 Mon 10-Apr-17 19:48:33

As i have said before, linking the two proposals doesn't make sense. As to the effect, I'm sure the likes of Emily Thornberry, Harriet Harment and Dianne "Sicknote" Abbott would still be able to afford independent education for their children!

trisher Mon 10-Apr-17 20:13:04

Isn't it interesting that one of the things always complained about is that the opposition don't give details about where the money will come from for something, but when they say where it will come from they re told they shouldn't do that!

daphnedill Mon 10-Apr-17 21:11:06

Yes, it's ironic. The trouble with this is that it's kicked off a form of class warfare with one group seeing very clearly that they're subsidising another group, so it wasn't the wisest of announcements from a politically strategic point of view.

durhamjen Mon 10-Apr-17 21:18:15

No, Ana, I didn't have a degree before I qualified as a teacher, Ana.
I had 9 O levels, seven grade A including maths and two grade B.
I did a four year BEd degree, getting a first.
Is that okay for you?

daphnedill Mon 10-Apr-17 21:34:44

The scheme to fast track service personnel into teaching has been a disaster. There was an official review a couple of years ago. The uptake was much lower than expected and many dropped out of training. The conclusion was that it's very poor value for money.

Ana Mon 10-Apr-17 21:39:56

Very impressive, durhamjen, you must be younger than I thought. O levels were graded in numbers when I took them! grin

durhamjen Mon 10-Apr-17 21:41:00

That's what I thought, daphne.

durhamjen Mon 10-Apr-17 21:43:22

No, Ana, it depended on which board you went with.
The private school I was at used three different boards, but they all graded in letters.
I was at that school between 1960 and 1966.

durhamjen Mon 10-Apr-17 21:47:43

I've also got an FA coaching certificate and an ASA swimming teacher's certificate, as you are showing such interest in my qualifications.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 10-Apr-17 21:52:04

I remember reading a comment from one of the people, a man, who joined the teaching scheme from the Army. He said he hadn't realised how much stamina it would take to teach!

Ana Mon 10-Apr-17 21:52:18

I don't have to believe it though, do I? wink

durhamjen Mon 10-Apr-17 21:54:47

Brilliant, Gracesgran.
When we did the football course, the only one who didn't finish it was an ex-policeman, who stood on the ball and broke his ankle.

durhamjen Mon 10-Apr-17 21:57:22

That's even more stupid than normal, Ana. Why ask about qualifications, then say you don't have to believe it.
Nobody has to believe anything anyone says on any thread or blog.
I don't believe you exist. So why am I bothering to reply to you?

Ana Mon 10-Apr-17 22:02:09

Goodness knows! Pity you only taught for 10 years after gaining all those qualifications though...

GracesGranMK2 Mon 10-Apr-17 22:06:12

So much has changed in qualifications required. Nurses need degrees now too although you could go in with very little at one time. Now many of them have a two degrees - one in a specialist area. Education is changing and expanding all the time to help us keep up with other economies and the huge opportunities available.

Anniebach Mon 10-Apr-17 22:16:59

So Jen, your parents were in the 7% ?

durhamjen Mon 10-Apr-17 22:23:13

Even more pathetic a dig, Ana.
I didn't know there was a number of years that teachers had to teach after they gained their qualifications.
I feel sorry for teachers now. You have paid for your degree and will carry on teaching and paying back until you reach 70.
Or else!

trisher Mon 10-Apr-17 22:25:08

Many of the people I trained with had only a couple of A levels and maybe 6 O levels, however they spent 3 years training to teach. they did 3 teaching practices in different schools and were subjected to gruelling assessment and criticism. When they finished the course they were able to teach and control a class, many of them went on to be heads. Today's teachers do a degree and then spend 1 year training to teach. On teaching practice they often only teach small groups. It isn't half as rigorous as it used to be. Degrees are fine but real experience and training are equally as important.

rosesarered Mon 10-Apr-17 22:32:21

It's another pie in the sky scheme that Corbyn talks about but will no doubt never see the light of day if he ever became PM ( pigs might fly.)So don't think it's worth anyone getting worked up about.

durhamjen Mon 10-Apr-17 22:44:34

How many cliches can you get in two lines, roses?

rosesarered Mon 10-Apr-17 22:48:38

It's an art durhamjen and needs years of practise.smile

Jalima1108 Mon 10-Apr-17 23:02:35

I have a vision of pigs flying through the sky catching pies as they go rosesarered grin
on that note moon

Anniebach Mon 10-Apr-17 23:05:31

Corbyn will not be PM, this is why he can promise anything

durhamjen Mon 10-Apr-17 23:07:14

In the dark, Jalima, so you won't be able to see them. Or maybe with spotlights?