Not an election please

trisher

Doesn't one.

Sorry but you are making assumptions that fit with your political persuasion and basing your comments not on factual knowledge . In other words making it up as you go.

How on earth Thatcher comes into the equation is totally lost on me..

Will you just stop telling me what I believe in, Annie.

Try telling us what YOU believe in for a change.
You do not know what party I am or am not a member of. It's all your nasty little fantasy to make yourself be the downtrodden one.
You don't know, either, POGS, just in case you are going to tell me.

But true Labour Party members voted for him Annie What you are saying is he is not the person YOU want which seems less than democratic.

Interesting point about Heath Daphne.

I wonder how the Kippers will vote?

They don,t help the homeless Trisher, but I doubt many homeless curl up on the pavement with an iPad and read GN, supporting Corbyn is kicking the homeless when they can't sink lower than the pavements they sleep,on , doesn't bother you though.

Because Jen you said you voted Green

Anniebach Did I read right? You have been loyal to the Labour Party? Who then was that person masquerading as you who has used every opportunity to divert every political discussion into a rant about how devious and unprincipled Corbyn is and how the Labour Party is doomed to failure?

There are many Labour MP's, never mind Labour supporters,who are loyal to the Labour Party, but want to be rid of Corbyn as they think ( rightly) that with him at the helm, Labour would sink beneath the waves.

No POGS it isn't to do with political persuasions it is to do with looking at history and drawing conclusions about what is happening now based on events in the past.Thatcher was a figure head chosen, moulded and developed by certain members of the Conservative party. Theresa came to be leader after a very strange election where the person she should have been standing against suddenly dropped out. It is logical to consider that the forces that were behind Thatcher (and who were very quiet at the time) are also behind Theresa.

It's true Eleothan, I am loyal to the party, Corbyn is not , he is devious and unprincipled

OMG - conspiracy theories abound!

And yes, of course durhamjen voted Green at one time - she can hardly deny it although not sure what relevance it has now.

It does bother me Annie otherwise why would you be accusing me of being a socialist, a trot and various other things. All of these ideas believe that people should be equal and that there shouldn't be homeless people. I don't understand how I can be plotting a revolution and a communist state but I don't care about the homeless.
Obviously, loyalty, caring and equality have different meanings for you.

Not denying that I voted green at one time. How that turns out that I've left the greens and turned into a trot is beyond me.

trisher

" It is logical to consider that the forces that were behind Thatcher (and who were very quiet at the time) are also behind Theresa."

You are talking rubbish. Theresa May was groomed!

I'll tell you what 'history tells us'. David Cameron resigned, the Conservatives decided to elect a new leader, Theresa May became leader.

Unlike Labour when Tony Blair resigned Gordon Brown became Prime Minister and Leader of the Labour Party in an 'Uncontested Election'.

I could make up some twaddle about Brown being groomed but I wouldn't be that daft.

I also do not understand how anyone supporting Corbyn means they are not supporting the homeless.
Corbyn today said that every carer should receive an extra £10 a week carers allowance. That seems a reasonable enough policy to me. It has been lost in the overall furore. Carers save taxpayers £132 billion a year. Definitely more worthwhile than May's cuts to inheritance tax.

Farage said that May is running scared of the channel four inspired election expenses scandal, when 30 Tories could lose their seats.
I wonder how much that came into her thinking.

So Theresa was voted for ? I don't think so. If everyone else drops out is that an election?

It's true Eleothan, I am loyal to the party, Corbyn is not , he is devious and unprincipled

That is not a fact Annie, it is an opinion and one, you seem to feel, that is worth more than other Labour Party members opinions.

POGS, May wasn't elected. There was no final vote so she became PM by default.

Brown was promised PM by Blair in return for his support. I thought everyone knew that. I haven't said anything about all PM being elected.

Sigh.

They are knitting again Jen and have conveniently put you in the tumbril - escape into real debate while you can

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Should have read your post first, Gracesgran.
Mine might be deleted. Anniebach can say what she likes about Corbyn, but we are not allowed to say anything personal about Anniebach.

Because Annie is a longstanding, loyal, hard working member of the Labour Party who just posts the most reactionary right wing propaganda I have ever read!

Wrong again Trisher , you realy should post facts , Brown was not promised he would be PM by Blair . I assume you were not a member of the party whrn John Smith was leader

So I suppose Brown was wrong about it as well? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8120137/Gordon-Brown-hits-out-at-broken-promises-of-Tony-Blair.html