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Anniebach Tue 18-Apr-17 10:05:00

May is to make an important announcement at 11.15

Anniebach Tue 18-Apr-17 23:05:09

Telling lies is being Responsible!

durhamjen Tue 18-Apr-17 23:12:11

Who is telling lies? We might not agree on that one.

Anniebach Tue 18-Apr-17 23:18:01

Jen, there seems to be not a thing we agree on

durhamjen Tue 18-Apr-17 23:19:44

We agree that you do not support the Labour party any more.

Anniebach Tue 18-Apr-17 23:20:08

An elderly member of the public was just interviewed, she said she hopes Corbyn loses then the party can have a new leader . I understand why she said this.

Anniebach Tue 18-Apr-17 23:22:15

Stop baiting please Jen, I support the Labour Party but like many labour MP's ,M mrmbers and supporters I do not support Corbyn, he cannot be trusted

durhamjen Tue 18-Apr-17 23:28:44

This is why Alan Johnson is standing down, exactly as I said.

"The Labour former home secretary and MP for Hull West and Hessle was among the first to inform his local party members that he was standing down. In a letter to his local party he wrote: “For me the personal decision is whether to retire now or in 2022 when I’ll be into my 70s. I’ve decided that going now will give me the opportunity to do other things with my life.” "

durhamjen Tue 18-Apr-17 23:29:53

You stop baiting and I will Annie. Why should your version of the Labour party be the real one?
I am glad you stood down, like Alan Johnson.

durhamjen Tue 18-Apr-17 23:31:35

I presume Osborne will not stand again. I don't think his constituents want him to have so many jobs.

durhamjen Tue 18-Apr-17 23:36:28

I love the Guardian view; she stood in Downing Street and announced with a completely straight face....

Fitzy54 Wed 19-Apr-17 07:06:32

Well DJ, for once I did read Owen Jones in the Guardian, and in terms of the uphill task Labour face, I think he made a great deal of sense. But I really think this is going to be a disaster for them, with desertions not only by those who don't like the new leadership and it's lurch to the left, but also by the Labour Brexit supporters.
I'm not sure how I will vote myself, other than it won't be UKIP or Green!

suzied Wed 19-Apr-17 07:22:39

I think Labour remainders won't forgive Corbyn's rolling over to Teresa May on Brexit. Another reason why they won't do well.

Witzend Wed 19-Apr-17 07:55:22

Quite apart from the major issues, I do enjoy a general election. I will stay up half the night watching the results come in. And it's often cynically enjoyable to see how badly the pollsters and pundits have got it all wrong.

whitewave Wed 19-Apr-17 08:11:34

I think that the most important thing that I am hoping will result from this election is the understanding that this country is utterly divided and therefore both halves must be given consideration in the Brexit outcome. A soft Brexit will I think be the most acceptable to the greatest number of people from both camps as well as business who have to thrive in the future.

To go through this election without understanding this will in my opinion be disastrous and so bad for democracy. It's going to be bad enough anyway with the majority ending up with a government they never voted for.

Abonet Wed 19-Apr-17 08:23:20

The country is coming together is Theresa's message. I cant decide if I agree with that or not.
Obviously not online as online is full of opposing opinions being voiced day in and day out, but the people not on online forums may be coming together once more.

In which democratic election ever in this country or another one, does the majority ever get a government they voted for whitewave?

Abonet Wed 19-Apr-17 08:24:41

It is a red herring statement repeated over and over those who didnt get the government they wanted.
Time it was stopped really.

GracesGranMK2 Wed 19-Apr-17 08:31:47

I am not sure what you think should be 'stopped' Abonet and certainly not clear how you intend to 'stop' it. I will await the knock on the door as that sounds very threatening.

Abonet Wed 19-Apr-17 08:35:55

Sorry, I wasnt totally clear. I mean the statement "does the majority ever get a government they voted for whitewave?"
For people to repeat this over and over, when it is the reality of literally countless elections around the globe, is silly.

GracesGranMK2 Wed 19-Apr-17 08:42:12

Why is it silly Abonet? At least, for once, it is a fact and not a lie.

Even if you believe it is silly, asking for it to be 'stopped' is asking for a limit on freedom to speak the truth. I know we live in strange times where the truth is concerned but do you really think speaking the truth should be limited because you find it 'silly'.

Anniebach Wed 19-Apr-17 08:53:02

Alan Johnson was on Corbyns hit list , naturally those who support the far left are glad he stood down, another from the centre left gone. Who next for the Corbyn knife?

grannypiper Wed 19-Apr-17 08:57:35

My DF was a well known and very active member of the Labour Party here in Scotland. We hosted the likes of Sillars, Galloway, Carmichael and Brown, my DF fought with a passion for Labour and donated more than a few £s. Fastforward from the 1970's til now and he wont even have the name Corbyn mentioned in his house. He will always believe in Keir Hardie but after nearly 70 years as a Labour party Supporter He will not put a cross in the Labour box whilst Corbyn leads the party. How many thousands of Labour supporters feel the same ?

whitewave Wed 19-Apr-17 09:01:31

abonet so what are you disagreeing with. The fact that the majority of people in this country do not get the government they voted for, or the fact that I said it?

Your retort that it was a red herring doesn't make sense either- it is a fact. No red herrings etc.

In a first past the post democracy, elections and particularly this election means that more than half the country is never represented in the government. Indeed if you live in anything but a swing seat, you may never have the opportunity to vote for someone who represents you in Parliament.

Anniebach Wed 19-Apr-17 09:02:28

Many grannyP. Labour are in serious trouble in Wales , we could lose many seats.

Corbyn is not labour,

whitewave Wed 19-Apr-17 09:02:32

annie are you fighting your own election? grin

Anniebach Wed 19-Apr-17 09:08:34

Not fighting whitewave, big difference between defending what is good and attacking was is bad.

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