Voting quandry

no chance Maizie? With the promise of giving more power back to unions ?

Did you support the strikes in 1979, Annie?

Another activist message ellenoo

Is that a new rule, roses, that you've just made up, activist grannies not allowed?
What about grannyactivist?

I did not support all the strikes in 1979, I cannot support strikes which causes far more than invonvenience to the public.

The ambulance strike caused much distress, and leaving the dead unburied ? No

These strikes caused distress and fear for innocent people

It was also the extent of these strikes which turned the voter against Labour because of links with the unions and Thstcher to take on the unions starting with miners, if she could Win this she could take on the rest she did win .

Where you really a LP supporter or just an LP supporter when it suited you Annie? Rather like JC.

GracesGranMK2 Are you saying my party right or wrong? If you are, I find that very frightening.

Whenever I have read Anniebach's posts, even though I do not share most of her political views, I have found her principled and thoughtful in all she has written. Supporting a political party when you believe its policies are principled and right and not when you believe they are betraying their ideals is not at all the same as choosing the policies that suit an individual, in fact it can be quite the contrary.

It is a shame that more people do not act like her. It would improve the quality of political discourse beyond measure.

I agree with you Monica and find all these personal posts against ab by posters who may be ( or maybe not) Labour voters , simply because she sees the truth about Corbyn, (as do,I may add, a lot of the population and a lot of Labour MP's.)

I agree with your post 100% MOnica, which ab knows.

Absolutely agree.

Can I ask you, Annie, if you see yourself as more anti Tory or more anti Corbyn?

Yes you may ask mines, but I can't give an answer sorry, I have never been a Tory supporter , Corbyn is for me not a person to trust and I see him as a greater danger to the Labour Party than the I see the Tory party ,

Mine was not 'against' roses, it was a reasonable question when you reflect on all Annie has said on here; if you believe it was I am happy to report my own post and get GN to check it.

AB has put an awful lot of what she insists is what a LP member should believe and trashed the party in order to make her point so certainly not 'my party right or wrong' but is the extreme opposite of 'believe me whether I am right or wrong' any better.

I am not in the least surprised that someone whose political views are of the exact opposite of those of the party AB says she supports will support what she has been saying M0nica - she has not been supporting the party but the outliers who have done all they can to destroy that party as it is currently constructed.

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Posters I have no wish to respond to posts from Gracesgran and have told her so. I do not rise to baiting

That is a very interesting statemeny GGMK2: she has not been supporting the party but the outliers who have done all they can to destroy that party *as it is currently constructed*

^that party as it is currently constructed^ is a phrase my family, lifelong Labour supporters, would recognise as the problem that is causing them and so many others, politicians, activists and voters, so much anguish.

Fat finger - statement

Perhaps reconstructed is a better choice if words Jalima

Are you changing my posts to suit your views AB?

She can't be doing that, Gracesgran. She's not responding to you. Changing your posts is a response.

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For goodness sake how many times can you two keep asking Anniebach that bloody question.

durhamjen, you are a 'return' Labour Member because of Corbyn but for years have told posters to vote for this, that and tuther party dependent on your view at the time. You advise posters to 'tactical vote' so don't even have the guts to say vote for Labour and Labour only.

GG MK 2 are you not Lib Dem?,

I have repeatedly said Anniebach and I have had some humdingers over the years but she, certainly not either of you two , has always said how she is a Labour Member/Activist.

Your problem is you cannot accept that she, like many other Labour Members, voters, PLP MP's, do not like the Corbyn/Momentum Party and is therefore at odds with your thinking he is Corbyn is the next Messiah.

I was always taught that referring to someone as 'she' as in your post of 22.42 is extremely rude djen.
If I said that DM would ask 'who's she - the cat's mother?'.
And that the 'cat' was the one using that phrase.

Just one or two of many of my DM's sayings of course.

Come off it, Jalima. It's quite okay to say she when it's obvious. My mum used to say that too.
Yet another deflection from the point of the post.

POGS, your problem is that you cannot accept that many Labour members do like Corbyn.
I hope you are watching QT at the moment.