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Should I vote Labour

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whitewave Tue 25-Apr-17 13:05:46

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Statement of intent not the manifesto

1. Reverse the cut in corporation tax saving £64bn over the parliamentary cycle
2£10 minimum wage for all over 18s
3. 17% rise in unpaid farmers allowance (exrea £500 pa) - paid by reversing the Inheritance Tax cut.
4. Renationalise railways as the franchises lapse
5. Stop NHS private contracts. Phase out existing private contracts thus saving 3.5bn - 5bn at present going as profit to the private health companies
6. Build 200k homes a year. Half from the private sector and half council homes by giving LAs the power to borrow against assets. This should ensure that 12bn housing benefit bill at present going into private landlords pockets should gradually fall.
7. 4 new public holidays
8. End zero- hours jobs by guaranteeing a contract for all workers on regular hours.
9 Ban any company from tendering for government contracts if they are based in an off shore tax haven and pay their CEO more tha £350k pa
10 stop the opening of new free schools and grammars
11 Stop sweetheart deLs between HMRC and bug corps. All large companies should publish their tax returns
12 Eradicate gender pay gap
13 cut business rates by £1.5bn
14 End the practice by large corps, of taking longer than the accepted 28 days to pay SMEs

daphnedill Sat 06-May-17 16:51:09

This is Bright Blue's website:

www.brightblue.org.uk/index.php/about/parliamentary-supporters

Its parliamentary supporters are a mixed bunch and I'm struggling to see some of them as "liberal", but it's worth listening to some of them.

I have never though that all Conservatives are "nasty". Some of them have laudable aims, although I personally wouldn't agree with how they want to achieve them

daphnedill Sat 06-May-17 16:54:22

Looking at the list of names Fitzy, I don't think the Bright Blue MPs have much in common.

durhamjen Sat 06-May-17 18:11:37

I've just been reading this.

www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/the-rise-of-the-alt-left

Anyone wish to comment?

durhamjen Sun 07-May-17 10:30:39

www.compassonline.org.uk/publications/the-progressive-alliance-why-labour-needs-it/

durhamjen Sun 07-May-17 12:30:22

Why you should vote Labour.

pbs.twimg.com/media/C_NfdYXXoAE6ycO.jpg

POGS Sun 07-May-17 20:33:13

durhamjen Sat 06-May-17 18:11:37
I've just been reading this.

www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/the-rise-of-the-alt-left

Anyone wish to comment?
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Your Buzzfeed link says nothing that has not been said before by some posters , the links you constantly use on GN are connecting posters to ultra left / pro Corbyn blogs/sites such as The Canary, Another Angry Voice, Skwakbox etc. etc. who are the basis of the Buzzfeed article.

The ultra left / pro Corbyn blogs /sites are not promoting the Labour Party only the Labour Party under Corbyn.

It was an interesting read and personally I would be a little more worried than you obviously are about using such sites for fear of any possible repercussion, albeit an extremely unlikely event, but if the article is to be believed there is an issue with a story that you have posted links to on GN re HSBC.

Out of interest, do you ever have a concern one day you will put a link on GN and drag posters into responding that could be challenged as being libellous or do you believe your links are not accountable?

durhamjen Sun 07-May-17 20:40:32

Did you watch Marr this morning?
He didn't seem to think anything on Buzzfeed is libellous.

The whole point of the alt-left is that they cannot get their information across in the right wing press.

durhamjen Sun 07-May-17 20:41:49

Corbyn is the leader of the Labour party. What's wrong with promoting the labour party under Corbyn?

POGS Sun 07-May-17 20:58:28

durhamjen

I have Marr to catch up with but I was not thinking of Buzzfeed as being a cause for libellous comment and my post made it clear.

You didn't answer the question I notice.

"Out of interest, do you ever have a concern one day you will put a link on GN and drag posters into responding that could be challenged as being libellous or do you believe your links are not accountable?"

As for promoting Labour / Corbyn as against the Labour Party / the PLP it is the well used term of 'A party within a Party'.

durhamjen Sun 07-May-17 21:04:50

www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/the-conservatives-are-paying-to-push-theresa-may-into-your

durhamjen Sun 07-May-17 21:05:49

www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/people-on-facebook-only-want-to-share-pro-corbyn-news

durhamjen Sun 07-May-17 21:06:39

www.buzzfeed.com/alexspence/theresa-mays-ruthless-boring-march-to-power

Not at all, POGS.

durhamjen Sun 07-May-17 21:08:22

think-left.org/2017/05/07/the-power-is-in-our-hands-to-change-history/

Dennis Skinner.

durhamjen Sun 07-May-17 21:09:41

How is Corbyn a party within a party? He is the leader of the party and voted in. May hasn't been voted in as leader of the Tories.

POGS Sun 07-May-17 21:44:02

durhamjen

I don't understand what you are trying to do. ?

You invited posters to comment on your link re Altra Left sites such as Another Angry Voice, The Canary, Skwakbox in a piece by Buzzfeed.

I made a comment, asked a question and I seriously do not understand your subsequent posts.

rosesarered Sun 07-May-17 21:56:01

May hasn't been voted in as leader of the Tories you say dj

Not long to go until she is though.

Anya Sun 07-May-17 22:10:26

Somewhat off piste but just found out that Jeremy Corbyn is in Leamington tomorrow at 2.00pm ...think I'll nip and see him in the flesh, as it were.

Any other GNetters going to be there?

Anniebach Sun 07-May-17 22:12:30

This explains a party within a party

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-plp-parliamentary-labour-party-tom-watson-momentum-seumas-milne-lord-watts_uk_58d02f42e4b00705db51c922

rosesarered Sun 07-May-17 22:12:54

Will you be heckling Anya grin
Wave to the camera and we might see you on the news! smile

Anya Sun 07-May-17 22:18:03

roses I've nailed my colours to the mast and put a Vote Labour poster in my window. I'm not a fan of the path Labour is following at the moment, but I cannot in all conscience vote for more of the same.

You knkw already we are on different sides of the political spectrum, but (unlike some) we've always agreed to differ and accepted that we each have an opinion.

I'm curious to see Jeremy in RL though.

Anya Sun 07-May-17 22:18:53

I will wave though ??

rosesarered Sun 07-May-17 22:29:01

smile

rosesarered Sun 07-May-17 22:30:13

Report back ( and take a selfie with him.)

POGS Sun 07-May-17 22:36:49

Anya

I will be interested to see if his appearance is a walk about or a rally for activists.

He came to Leicester on Saturday and I thought it was going to be an open rally but it turned out to be an invited guest only do for activists / Labour supporters at Leicester Tigers Stadium.

durhamjen Sun 07-May-17 22:49:37

He was in the city centre.

Here's his rally so you can see what you missed.

www.leicestermercury.co.uk/corbyn-promises-leicester-labour-supporters-a-reckoning-with-greedy-bankers-and-tax-cheats/story-30316572-detail/story.html

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