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Can we really Trust Teresa May with a blank cheque?

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James2451 Sun 07-May-17 13:38:59

‘We need to seriously remind ourselves that we are being asked to cast a vote that will affect not just our lives today, but the future of generations to come’.
I desire a fairer and decent society, one that does not impose severe austerity packages on low and middle earners and so many young families. In fact, for most of us the quality of life for our own grandchildren and their prospects and safe future."

I am deeply worried about giving Teresa May and many of her RW extremists a blank cheque to do what ever they want over the next five years. I am not assured at present that we can trust her and the extreme dogma of many of her MP's. We have no guarantee she will be in office for the full term, look what happened to Maggie.

Her unwillingness to inform the Country what Brexit will mean if she gets her on way with the EU and she is not even prepared to debate her election policies on TV for us all to hear and give our approval,or dissent is worrying. Forget about Corbyn that is a red herring excuse given to protect her from facing the camera's and the Nations scrutiny.
Her term in office at the Home Office has not been the brightest for any leading conservative minister, nor as her ability been questioned to the full to be able to lead our nation through the trouble waters likely to be ahead after Brexit, her ability is still an important unknown factor.

No, I cannot fully put my trust in her at present, I need to have far greater assurances far better than the rude way she behaved at the dispatch box and at the rostrum outside number 10 last week.

We need to be quite clear the election is NOT on Brexit it is on policies for healing and improving the quality of life of the nation over the next five years. I want a bright future for my grandchildren, I am not sure that Teresa May knows how to achieve that with her political dogma, or that I can presently 100% trust her without her being willing to debate her policies in front of the Nation. She is possibly more worried about Nicola Sturgeon than Jeremy Corbyn.. A landslide victory is likely to send the wrong messages to her backbenchers for more draconian policies and I do not believe that is what the nation needs for our grandchildrens future. I am therefore coming round to voting Lib Dem.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 20-May-17 21:02:24

Its nice to hear the alms houses were put to good use.

I really do think that many will be resorting to charities if May gets her landslide.

durhamjen Sat 20-May-17 22:05:46

Here's why we can't trust Maybot.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/17/jeremy-corbyn-manifesto-labour-1945-nhs

durhamjen Sat 20-May-17 22:46:26

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2017/may/19/who-should-i-vote-for-the-uk-election-manifestos-compared

A good comparison of the manifestos.

whitewave Sun 21-May-17 17:16:00

I have stated looking at what happens if we come out of e single market on the Conservative campaign thread and realised my mistake so will carry on on this thread, as this is contained within the manifesto and should May win the election she will claim she will have a mandate to take us out of the single market.

So I've looked at what the single market allows trade to do within and without the EU, and how the UK will not only be leaving the EU agreements, but also agree,ends with most of the world.

"So leaving the EU without an agreement means that the UK will trade on WTO rules. Indeed the Hard rights attitude is "bring it on"! But what in practice does it mean?
The WTO is potentially a regulatory nightmare , where each and every member can trigger a trade dispute against you. To join Britain must conduct some of the most technical, complicated, unprecedented trade negotiations in political history.
The WTO will only work if Britains departure goes well, .....a decent EU negotiation is a precondition of successful membership.
Leading Brexiters say the EU and UK can unilaterally reduce their tariffs with each other then go to the WTO as tariff free entities. This is false. It will only work if the EU and UK have signed a trade deal"

whitewave Sun 21-May-17 17:16:43

Oh! Reference Dunt 2016

durhamjen Sun 21-May-17 21:14:33

This is weird. It's also impossible to comply with. It sounds very trumplike.

inews.co.uk/essentials/news/uk/elections-watchdog-accused-muzzling-charities-absurd-demand-back-date-rules-campaign-spending/

Ginny42 Sun 21-May-17 21:31:16

Can we trust her with a blank cheque? I think it's already bounced. I didn't see this interview, but according to the Guardian on ITV's Peston on Sunday, BJ was pressed on why there was no pledge from the Tories to use any proceeds from Brexit to fund the NHS, when handing over £350m a week had been a flagship promise of his campaign to leave the EU.

Johnson said: “It is. It is. Theresa May, she said it at the launch of the manifesto … She said we are going to take back control.”

Neither she nor the document made any such promise.

Jane10 Sun 21-May-17 21:45:00

If I were a politician (which God forbid!), I wouldn't want to be elected right now. It will be so much easier to sit on the opposition benches booing and hissing at the poor sods who have to deal with all the hellish brexit negotiations.
I was at a talk on the complexities of brexit last week. There's an extremely difficult couple of years in store for the prime minister. Likely to be impossible to suit everyone and hard for the winning party this time to be elected again at the next election. In the meantime the country and the economy has to be kept running.
If only brexit hadn't been voted for! -and who would want to be a politician? Not me!!

durhamjen Sun 21-May-17 22:18:24

Pandora's Box.
Which version do you believe? The one where hope came out of the box, or the one where hope was trapped?

Jane10 Mon 22-May-17 07:50:28

Neither!

Anniebach Mon 22-May-17 08:23:12

live in hope, die in dispair

whitewave Mon 22-May-17 12:15:27

I am reading a book relating to the negotiations ahead of us including the WTO if necessary - if anyone reads this and then says Brexit is and will be a positive thing for the UK then they are twopence short of a shilling.

durhamjen Mon 22-May-17 13:59:46

www.thepeoplesassembly.org.uk/may_threat

Look out for the billboards by the People's Assembly.

durhamjen Mon 22-May-17 14:24:32

All May's uturns since becoming PM.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-u-turns-demential-tax-social-care-general-election-2017-live-latest-a7749131.html

durhamjen Mon 22-May-17 14:25:34

There's a thought, whitewave.
Do they expect us to go back to £sd?

Welshwife Mon 22-May-17 15:06:23

I quite enjoyed doing conversions using £sd. Or yards feet and inches!

GracesGranMK2 Mon 22-May-17 15:20:06

It keeps the brain cells working Welshwife.

Whitewave may I ask what book it is? I shouldn't be asking as I am still ploughing through Citizen Clem but it sounds interesting.

Ana Mon 22-May-17 15:23:47

And for every book that claims Brexit will be a disaster for the UK you can bet there'll be one stating the opposite point of view.

whitewave Mon 22-May-17 15:29:46

dj interestingly it isn't about disaster Brexit, it is about how and what negotiations are needed in order to extricate ourselves from EU and the following WTO negotiations. It gives a lot of detail and is entirely neutral.

Pity we didn't have that information before the referendum. It is absolutely clear to me that the Brexiters were either entirely ignorant or lying about what will happen after Brexit.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 22-May-17 15:36:12

But Ana, WW didn't say it was a book saying that Brexit will be a disaster, she said it was about "relating to the negotiations ahead of us including the WTO" and that is what she based her comment that Brexit will not be positive.

What is your opinion based on - Nigel Farage (gone never to be seen again), Boris and the Bus (well we all know now that that was a lie) the Theresa May Team (oh, no she didn't want to leave did she) or have we missed actual facts that tell us all will be great?

angelab Mon 22-May-17 15:36:19

Why we need a second vote when we can hopefully find out what the terms will be

Ana Mon 22-May-17 15:38:35

Perhaps you'd better PM the book title to GGMk11 as you don't seem to want to give it out on here whitewave! grin

durhamjen Mon 22-May-17 17:09:53

Hey, you lot, I have a hard enough job teaching my grandson metric. Don't wish that on me.
Although the other day, we had to work out numbers in base 6, and he enjoyed doing that. No practical use, really, but he could see the pattern.

Ginny42 Mon 22-May-17 22:15:01

Are we going to discuss TM's performance on Andrew Neill's programme? Am I on the wrong thread or have I missed it?

I'm not sure if May is deliberately throwing this election to avoid having to negotiate Brexit or have the Tories hung her out to dry? It seems Mr Juncker was being rather diplomatic when he said she seemed 'poorly briefed'.

Surely no one can think she could possibly negotiate with serious professional people in the EU. The UK must not be represented by this embarrassing woman. Unfortunately this will have gone out on international media.

It was full of the predictable sound-bites and rather a lot of the first person singular. She trots out the same sound-bite when pressed again for an answer, because the first sound-bite wasn't an answer.

Neil referred to the “just about managing” and how, despite her claiming to be on their side, things are getting harder for them. She replied that she wants a stronger economy with higher paid jobs and lower energy bills.

But Neil persists, asking, “In what way are you on their side?” Again, she dodges and tells him that she wants to bring economic prosperity. No blinkin' wonder she didn't want a TV debate.

Do we trust her? Well do you? Yes or No answers only please and no second chance if you change your mind.

durhamjen Mon 22-May-17 22:25:05

No.