Should I vote Labour Mark 11

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No more blatant crowd-pleaser in this election that TM's promise to keep winter fuel allowance for Scots, roses

Sorry roses, X posts

No tuition fees this year for England if labour are elected

I did suggest that on another thread (or it could have been this one!) but was shouted down.

Have just found out that no, students won't be altruistic as Corbyn has promised that students starting this September won't pay anything. Also students who started last year won't either, nor those half way through their courses! Too bad for those who only have a year left though, so a divisive policy as well as a unbelievable use of public money .Do they know how many students go to Uni these days! It was possible to do years ago as the number of students going to Uni was a small percentage.I think tuition fees came in under a Labour Government because so many were going it was unfeasible to pay from the public purse.Those not able to go to University now will be paying taxes to support their lucky peers, if Corbyn has his way.
Nick Clegg, who I have a lot of time for ( can't agree on everything with him though) has condemned the idea as well as others.
Such blatant crowd pleasers in this election show that Corbyn and McDonnell will stop at nothing to try and win , even if it means bringing the country to economic ruin.
Yes, if you want a duo of Marxists/Trots running things, then vote for Labour.

I think so Elegran .

The more that is promised, the smaller the proportion of it that will get done, eh Anniebach? They seem to be promising everything to everyone.

There are too many promises in the labour manifesto , whilst I agree with much I do not agree with all and I doubt all will be carried out.

Commitment to trident yet Thornbury says differently !

There are several successful countries that espouse policies similar to those in the Labour manifesto. They score highly on those surveys about citizen happiness too. Worth thinking about!

A really positive reason why you should vote to stop this cruel and arrogant Theresa May Party.

Which is the more realistic budget? We keep being told we cannot afford to look after the poor or less able, or educate our children, or care for our old so those who have personal means to do this must do so and those who have not must consider themselves lucky to get anything other than very basic help; are we really that poor?

There are those who wish to make people believe that a higher level of spending on these things would be extreme socialism. Out of interest do those who support the extremely right-wing May see Germany as an extremely socialist country?

It is so obvious the scrapping of university fees is in hope of achieving what the Libs did when they promised the same .

If students vote because of the promise of no tuition fees and a maintenance grant ,then it will be very altruistic of them, because it's unlikely to apply to them, already at University.

Of course Labour have come up in the polls: at election time it's going to be a massive vote pleaser to promise , (instead of jam tomorrow) to say you can have as much jam as you like, pots and pots of the stuff, in fact whole cratefuls, hire a lorry and take it away, to the Conservative promise of no jam at all.
But, with Brexit on the horizon, and still a big deficit, which is the more realistic?
If the country does well, and we come through with a good economy, the Conservatives could allow a spoonful or two of jam in Autumn budgets.
I fully realise that some of you won't like this anology but it's a true one.

I am still, sadly, in a safe Conservative seat but I will still do my bit to keep the numbers of the Great Flood down.

Students are definitely going to vote for Labour now.

skwawkbox.org/2017/05/21/breaking-huge-labour-will-end-student-fees-write-off-debt-claimyourfuture-ge17/

I've just tried it out. It seems that I would have more impact in Peterborough or York than where I live now.

For anyone who has or is a student, this is very interesting. Students can be eligible to vote in two places, but can only vote in one. This link lets you find out which of the two is the better one in which to vote.

ge2017.com/students

Good news for Labour voters.

Any Labour voters want to see what Corbyn's rallies are like?

skwawkbox.org/2017/05/20/never-anything-like-this-1000s-cheer-corbyn-cheered-at-seaside-and-rock-concert/

Don't forget, Annie that, in the NHS at least, 'hotel services' were contracted out to private companies in the Thatcher era. When I worked in hospital catering, just prior to Thatcher, the prices in staff canteens were very low as they were pitched to cover costs, not to make a profit. I left in 1979 and have no idea what privatisation did to staff food prices but I suspect that the profit imperative must have done something to raise them. So eating in an NHS staff canteen may not be a particularly cheap option these days.

Perhaps someone with post 1979 NHS experience might be able to tell us what the situation is now (or more recently)?

£20,000 is higher than the minimum wage so there are many not earning £20,000 and not using food banks . I realy do not believe police are using food banks, they jumped on the food bank tale

Do hospitals and police stations no longer have staff canteens? This is a small market town but the cottage hospital has a staff canteen as does the police station .

Ah gilly, if it were only that simple!