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Should I vote Labour Mark 11

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whitewave Fri 12-May-17 11:40:03

That's a bum, can anyone cut and paste or something the manifesto that took me blood sweat and tears to do this morning please!!!???

Anya Wed 17-May-17 08:56:47

Or perhaps, "May, you live in interesting times" wink

Eats, shoots and leaves......

Jalima1108 Wed 17-May-17 10:33:41

Or eats shoots and leaves wink

Anya Wed 17-May-17 10:38:17

That's my point.

Ana Wed 17-May-17 10:39:34

Er...yes! grin

Jalima1108 Wed 17-May-17 10:40:50

Using a sledgehammer to crack a nut
(me, I mean grin)

Anya Wed 17-May-17 10:43:39

Better than being ignored!

MaizieD Wed 17-May-17 10:48:18

I heard a Today programme journalist attacking the Tory's economic record - and it needs attacking and highlighting.

I was listening to the R4 10pm news programme and the LP spending plans seemed to be well supported. Verdict seemed to be "Not perfect, but doable"

Well, what spending plans, Labour or Tory, are ever perfect or doable?

durhamjen Wed 17-May-17 19:23:36

Labour spending and tax calculations.

pbs.twimg.com/card_img/864463104738037760/_xESWbUs?format=jpg&name=600x314

durhamjen Wed 17-May-17 20:06:35

The building industry liked Labour's manifesto.

www.24housing.co.uk/news/labour-manifesto-the-reaction/

rosesarered Wed 17-May-17 20:17:39

Perhaps in five years, when the Labour Party sorts itself out ( or most of the MP's
Decide to break away and form a centre Party) it will have a chance of winning a GE.
Not everbody is going to vote for T May because they love all the policies ( although they might like some, we haven't seen them yet, so can't judge) but because a Corbyn led government is too awful to contemplate.

MaizieD Wed 17-May-17 20:19:20

I expect the building industry likes them because Labour is actually promising them some real money instead of leaving it up to local, cash strapped, councils..

Devorgilla Wed 17-May-17 21:01:07

For those of you still deciding just ask yourself if you want to wake up on June 9th to 10 years of Tory Government (and it will be) with the devastating effects that all that will have on real people. If not then vote Labour JC and all. He's far from being my choice as leader but I would rather have five years of a Labour Government that one more day of a Tory one. The next five years will be about Brexit and very little else will get a look in. Look beyond the Brexit talks and think what a massive majority Tory Government will do to the fabric of this country. I want a Government that halts the decline of the NHS and stops the disintegration of our school system and if Labour achieves that plus Brexit that will do for me. Sooner or later all leaders, including TM and JC, become footnotes in history.

rosesarered Wed 17-May-17 21:04:01

The Conservatives will win this time, but not neccessarily the next one.If Labour change Leader and direction away from the far left then they have a chance in five years.

Anniebach Wed 17-May-17 21:17:41

So now Corbyn is against freedom of movement ?

rosesarered Wed 17-May-17 21:30:23

So it seems ab although he wasn't sure last time I looked.grin

Anniebach Wed 17-May-17 21:37:29

Another attack of - with hindsight I was wrong ?

Jalima1108 Wed 17-May-17 21:59:21

real people.
What is the definition of real in this context please?

All people are real, from multi-millionaires to a homeless person; they all have hopes, despair, differing expectations but all are real surely.

The 'man or woman in the street' is also real but they are not all homogenous.

MaizieD Wed 17-May-17 22:18:01

real people, Jalima? Who said that and in what context?

daphnedill Wed 17-May-17 22:22:33

But what the heck do you mean by the "far left"? What do you fear? I really can't see Corbyn mobilising a Red Army to snatch everyone's worldy goods!

PS. Corbyn isn't going to be PM, but this Project Fear "Far Left" stuff is baffling!

Jalima1108 Wed 17-May-17 22:28:17

am I on the right thread MaizieD?

They are all becoming homogeneous!

Oh yes, it was Devorgilla Wed 17-May-17 21:01:07

MaizieD Wed 17-May-17 22:39:57

Got it. Thanks. I was skim reading a bit too skimmily...

I'm sure Devorgilla will explain what she means, but I would have thought that it was perhaps a way to refer to the mass of the population who don't have any particular influence or any particular wealth or privilege and just get on with their daily lives the best way they can.

You're right about the threads. I'm getting a bit lost off at times..

durhamjen Wed 17-May-17 22:45:12

skwawkbox.org/2017/05/17/nurse-worried-about-feeding-her-family-hammonds-response-stats-ge17/

Here's a real person asking Hammond how she should feed her children.
He's a robot, too.
This is why you should do as Devorgilla says and vote Labour.

Devorgilla Thu 18-May-17 10:14:10

Apologies Jalima 1108. I posted late at night and forgot how literally every word is taken. MaizieD got it right - the main body of people who just get on with daily life.

Jalima1108 Thu 18-May-17 10:32:36

grin

It got me thinking though Devorgilla. Thinking about my extended family, their lives, what has happened to them, how they have coped and how they vote.

Jalima1108 Thu 18-May-17 10:39:14

It is always necessary to hear the back story of any reports too.
A nurse - a student nurse, a healthcare worker, a ward sister? A single mum with how many children, or has she a wage-earning partner? Which area does she live in? We need to know the whole picture as it is all relevant.