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whitewave Fri 12-May-17 11:40:03

That's a bum, can anyone cut and paste or something the manifesto that took me blood sweat and tears to do this morning please!!!???

whitewave Fri 19-May-17 11:38:16

At least voting Labour or Liberal you will know where the money is to come from.

Tories?? Clueless.

Anniebach Fri 19-May-17 11:43:12

So true Gilly, I think using this -nurses and police officers need food banks mocks the low paid , unemployed and those on disability benefits .

Food banks which we should be ashamed of have now become a political weapon started by labour , labour needs food banks

gillybob Fri 19-May-17 11:47:53

Exactly Anniebach .

I have a young police officer living opposite me (in the bigger houses). He is married with two young children. His wife is a stay at home mum and they both drive very nice cars. I donate to my local food bank both privately and via my WI and would be very surprised, disgusted even, to see him or his wife standing in line with the poor people living on the breadline. But as you say... it makes a good Labour Headline.

Elegran Fri 19-May-17 11:51:33

Do they ask everyone who uses a food bank what their occupation is?

gillybob Fri 19-May-17 11:56:15

You cannot just turn up at a foodbank Elegran you have to be referred via a social worker, church, charity, doctor etc.

I think the uniform might be a bit of a give away though. wink

Elegran Fri 19-May-17 12:03:12

So does the social worker etc record the occupation of everyone they refer? Not necessarily the people at the food bany itself. And do they pass on the figures for each occupation, not just a mention of unspecified numbers of "nurses and policemen"? (which could be one of each, for any temporary reason)

angelab Fri 19-May-17 12:27:27

I really don't know where the people on here live who think that a policeman or nurse would never need a food bank. Read the post earlier - £20,00 would barely put a roof over your head in the SE. Where I live, typical rent for a 2-bed flat is around £1200 pcm, that's £14,400 just on rent. Nurses in London get additional pay in recognition of this - but that allowance where I live was removed.

angelab Fri 19-May-17 12:27:59

Should be £20,000 sorry.

gillybob Fri 19-May-17 13:07:32

Where I live £20,000 is a fairly decent wage angelab . A very bloomin' Good wage for a trainee. Sadly the SE can't have it all . You can't revel in the fact that the house you bought for a pittance is now worth millions and them moan that poor police officers can't live on £20,000. Maybe they should get in their proverbial bike and move to where the houses are cheaper and people aren't so damned greedy to charge £1400 a month rent !

gillybob Fri 19-May-17 13:11:02

I don't know Elegran I would imagine you would have to prove your need and prove your income . I doubt whether earnings of £20,000 ( for a trainee) would be looked upon at as desperation though.

angelab Fri 19-May-17 13:11:14

Ah gilly, if it were only that simple!

Anniebach Fri 19-May-17 13:18:41

Do hospitals and police stations no longer have staff canteens? This is a small market town but the cottage hospital has a staff canteen as does the police station .

Anniebach Fri 19-May-17 13:24:47

£20,000 is higher than the minimum wage so there are many not earning £20,000 and not using food banks . I realy do not believe police are using food banks, they jumped on the food bank tale

MaizieD Fri 19-May-17 13:31:25

Don't forget, Annie that, in the NHS at least, 'hotel services' were contracted out to private companies in the Thatcher era. When I worked in hospital catering, just prior to Thatcher, the prices in staff canteens were very low as they were pitched to cover costs, not to make a profit. I left in 1979 and have no idea what privatisation did to staff food prices but I suspect that the profit imperative must have done something to raise them. So eating in an NHS staff canteen may not be a particularly cheap option these days.

Perhaps someone with post 1979 NHS experience might be able to tell us what the situation is now (or more recently)?

durhamjen Sat 20-May-17 23:23:52

Any Labour voters want to see what Corbyn's rallies are like?

skwawkbox.org/2017/05/20/never-anything-like-this-1000s-cheer-corbyn-cheered-at-seaside-and-rock-concert/

durhamjen Sun 21-May-17 17:27:43

Good news for Labour voters.

durhamjen Sun 21-May-17 19:49:43

For anyone who has or is a student, this is very interesting. Students can be eligible to vote in two places, but can only vote in one. This link lets you find out which of the two is the better one in which to vote.

ge2017.com/students

durhamjen Sun 21-May-17 19:52:57

I've just tried it out. It seems that I would have more impact in Peterborough or York than where I live now.

durhamjen Sun 21-May-17 22:38:57

Students are definitely going to vote for Labour now.

skwawkbox.org/2017/05/21/breaking-huge-labour-will-end-student-fees-write-off-debt-claimyourfuture-ge17/

GracesGranMK2 Sun 21-May-17 22:52:25

I am still, sadly, in a safe Conservative seat but I will still do my bit to keep the numbers of the Great Flood down.

rosesarered Mon 22-May-17 09:36:02

Of course Labour have come up in the polls: at election time it's going to be a massive vote pleaser to promise , (instead of jam tomorrow) to say you can have as much jam as you like, pots and pots of the stuff, in fact whole cratefuls, hire a lorry and take it away, to the Conservative promise of no jam at all.
But, with Brexit on the horizon, and still a big deficit, which is the more realistic?
If the country does well, and we come through with a good economy, the Conservatives could allow a spoonful or two of jam in Autumn budgets.
I fully realise that some of you won't like this anology but it's a true one.

rosesarered Mon 22-May-17 09:39:31

If students vote because of the promise of no tuition fees and a maintenance grant ,then it will be very altruistic of them, because it's unlikely to apply to them, already at University.

Anniebach Mon 22-May-17 09:41:49

It is so obvious the scrapping of university fees is in hope of achieving what the Libs did when they promised the same .

GracesGranMK2 Mon 22-May-17 09:51:45

Which is the more realistic budget? We keep being told we cannot afford to look after the poor or less able, or educate our children, or care for our old so those who have personal means to do this must do so and those who have not must consider themselves lucky to get anything other than very basic help; are we really that poor?

There are those who wish to make people believe that a higher level of spending on these things would be extreme socialism. Out of interest do those who support the extremely right-wing May see Germany as an extremely socialist country?

GracesGranMK2 Mon 22-May-17 10:45:57

A really positive reason why you should vote to stop this cruel and arrogant Theresa May Party.