Should I vote Labour Mark 11

There are several successful countries that espouse policies similar to those in the Labour manifesto. They score highly on those surveys about citizen happiness too. Worth thinking about!

There are too many promises in the labour manifesto , whilst I agree with much I do not agree with all and I doubt all will be carried out.

Commitment to trident yet Thornbury says differently !

The more that is promised, the smaller the proportion of it that will get done, eh Anniebach? They seem to be promising everything to everyone.

I think so Elegran .

Have just found out that no, students won't be altruistic as Corbyn has promised that students starting this September won't pay anything. Also students who started last year won't either, nor those half way through their courses! Too bad for those who only have a year left though, so a divisive policy as well as a unbelievable use of public money .Do they know how many students go to Uni these days! It was possible to do years ago as the number of students going to Uni was a small percentage.I think tuition fees came in under a Labour Government because so many were going it was unfeasible to pay from the public purse.Those not able to go to University now will be paying taxes to support their lucky peers, if Corbyn has his way.
Nick Clegg, who I have a lot of time for ( can't agree on everything with him though) has condemned the idea as well as others.
Such blatant crowd pleasers in this election show that Corbyn and McDonnell will stop at nothing to try and win , even if it means bringing the country to economic ruin.
Yes, if you want a duo of Marxists/Trots running things, then vote for Labour.

I did suggest that on another thread (or it could have been this one!) but was shouted down.

No tuition fees this year for England if labour are elected

Sorry roses, X posts

No more blatant crowd-pleaser in this election that TM's promise to keep winter fuel allowance for Scots, roses

than, not that

How many go to university in England and how many leave education at eighteen? Anyone know ?

Well, there will certainly be more rushing to apply now!

Is Corbyn ever going into Tory held constituencies to csmpaign?

Now they are going to support arts, music and film, does this mean give money?

This is my problem, I said recently I was supporting Welsh Labour, Jen told me there was just labour atcwestminster and I should deal with it.

So I vote labour and my granddaughter still pays university fees because she doesn't live in England.

The many not the few I suppose

It must mean that. They could support them by saying, "Arts and Music are good", until they were blue in the face without doing any good.

Promise everything and when it proves impossible to deliver it all, just say "Oh we'll have to put up taxes/VAT/our borrowing" to pay for it.

Polls closing - just watch the right wing rags go into overdrive trashing Corbyn

Don't read right wing rags whitewave.

Promise everything and when it proves impossible to deliver it all, just say "Oh we'll have to put up taxes/VAT/our borrowing" to pay for it.

My biggest fear too Elegran

My DD has student loans from a few years ago. This is a debt that she will probably be saddled with for life. Having said that, she does not use the degree she got and probably should never have gone to uni at all. What we don't need is a massive rise in young people going to university courtesy of the tax payer taking degrees that are neither use nor ornament.

JC seems to be trying to please everyone by giving things away like a man possessed.

Where is all of this damned money going to come from? It can only be one of a handful of things;

Massive borrowing (leaving our DC and DGC saddled with national debts for ever)
Raising taxes/ VAT etc. (despite promising otherwise).
Hammering businesses to the point of extinction. JC hates business (they tend not to be members of Unite)

And how many of these businesses will leave the country .

This labour manifesto is definitely Land of Oz

Waiting for - those payIng rent will have their rent paid

How about doing away with university fees for those taking courses which are beneficial to the country, medicine, science, engineering (I know there are many others) but charging fees for courses such as film, theatre, history of art etc.

It is odd that individuals persist in the myth that Labours policies are uncosted.

It is the TORIES whose policies are uncosted.

sunseeker I agree with you up to a point, but my DD got a first in English literature and is hoping for a career in film production which will involve doing an MA. The arts are important too!!

angelab I agree the arts are important but should they not be considered a "luxury". If your household budget is strained you would concentrate on the essentials and would only pay for luxuries when things improved.