A Labour Government.

May voted against a lot of them, too, luckylegs. Did you miss that, or are you ignoring what doesn't fit?
So did Johnson.

Corbyn really shot himself in the foot with the Womans Hour debacle.
Not just Abbott bad with figures.Just showing it on the evening news now, ouch!

Thinking of Corbyn's manifesto brings this to mind. Beware the beautifully decorated cage, with bars at the windows where the strange looking man lures you in with the promise of sweeties. It's a trap.

Well I suppose if you have the mind of a 6 year old child you would need that photo. The adults amongst us prefer to judge for ourselves.
Can I ask what sort of a society you would prefer to see Smileless2012? More homeless, more people with disabilities dying, more working families using food banks, longer NHS waiting lists while the richest get richer?

Mays manifesto brings many warnings to mind.

Beware uncosted promises.
Beware needing care in your old age
Beware the cash strapped NHS
Beware the cash strapped schools
May lures you in with the promise of ability and strength
Its a lie

Roses, did you criticise Abbott for getting the figures wrong?
Now you are criticising Corbyn for asking for time to get the figures right.

Please can you show me some figures that May got right.
Of course, there aren't any, are there?
£100,000 floor - no cap. Oh, yes, there is a cap, we just haven't worked it out yet.

If she wins, I look forward to your complaints if you have to go into care. Actually, not even if you have to go into care. She'll take your money from you even if you have to have care at home, and it will definitely serve you right.

I'm surprised you even to bother ask what what type of society I'd prefer trisher as you seem to think I have mind of a 6 year old. Are you so lacking in the ability to have a reasoned discussion about politics, and lacking in a sense of humour that you have to resort to personal insults?

But as you asked, you've probably outlined the kind of society we'll have if Corbyn becomes PM. Where's the money coming from? The 'rich' wont be getting richer in the UK because they wont be here, they'll go else where. For goodness sake, when asked how much it would cost for free, non means tested child care Corbyn didn't even know. 'It's going to cost a lot' ....really!!!

Even six year olds know what sort of society they want to live in. Most of them want to live in one where everyone gets on, they are all friends, no discrimination whatsoever.
They all have enough money to do what they want, their families are well enough off for them to have new clothes and shoes when they grow out of the old ones, and they can all go on the school trips this time of year.
Sounds good to me.

I don't mind if your sort of rich aren't here. They don't pay their taxes, give workers zero hours contracts on minimum wage. They can go.

Corbyn did know, Smileless. He was just not given enough time to find out the figures.
Do you think May remembers all the figures she spouts at PMQs?
Of course not. She knows what questions she is going to be asked.

Do they durhamjen, what all of them. OMG how has this country managed to survive thus far if none of the rich, not my sort of rich by the way, just the rich don't pay their taxes and give workers zero hours contracts on minimum wage?

Smacks of inverted snobbery to me.

Good analogy Smileless, it's not that Corbyn hasn't got some good ideals/ideas he just won't be able to deliver them .

Your sort of rich are the rich who won't be here. That's all. The rich you mentioned in your post.

PS well let's just hope if Corbyn does become PM and has to negotiate Brexit they give him enough time to find out the figures.

I bet that's a first for you, norose.
Corbyn has some good ideals/ideas.

May has got no figures, Smileless. Have you really not realised that yet?

Can you give me one figure from her manifesto?

No actually it's not a first , I can see he has SOME good ideas, but running a country is not one of them .

He'll bankrupt the country if he gets in and if the so called rich leave our shores who will pay for all the giveaways.

No, he won't bankrupt the country. That's pure scaremongering. It's impossible to bankrupt a country such as the UK, which issues its own currency.

Exactly, so where's the money coming from? If Corbyn has his way, and the city of London's financial institutions are taxed to the extent that he's implied, the only winners will be Frankfurt and Paris because they are the two financial institutions vying to take over London's financial dominance.

Like it or not, we rely on our financial institutions. Merkel and Macron will be laughing all the way to the bank. Let's be realistic here, there's no point in having a long and attractive shopping list if you haven't got the money to settle the bill.

You're right to be worried about the poorest of society, the wealthy can go else where, the poor don't have that choice.

Corbyn's like a man with an overdraft, offering to take all his buddies on a 5 year long jolly.

Exactly Ninny, I'm not a great lover of any of the parties, just being realistic especially this time around.

If the so-called rich leave our country, somebody else will step in to run their businesses and buy their houses - hopefully people who pay their taxes in the UK.

Have you never wondered why so many foreigners are so keen to invest in the UK?

More scaremongering!

What if you don't like the someone else either ? Better the devil you know

speye.wordpress.com/2017/05/30/vote-labour-for-housing-you-know-it-makes-sense/

No, he's not smileless. I suggest you read a dummies guide to macro-economics, including post-Keynesianism.

For example, giving people money to spend on childcare creates jobs (which is the greatest expense in childcare). Nearly all the money people earn passes through various hands before being returned to the Treasury in tax.