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Conservative voters don't look at this

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FarNorth Wed 31-May-17 12:25:21

www.facebook.com/theguardian/videos/690794987774934/

This video shows the reality of life for a disabled person after seven years of a Conservative government (with a little help from the LibDems).

Is she an unusual exception, I wonder?

GracesGranMK2 Sun 04-Jun-17 15:28:46

I didn't rate her as you know but I am shocked at how she has used this. The best thing they could do - the LDs are calling for it - is to work cross-party on this area. I rather imagine, and would be happy to be proved wrong, but I think T May would find that idea quite offensive sadly.

durhamjen Sun 04-Jun-17 15:39:54

This is interesting.

skwawkbox.org/2017/06/04/may-reported-to-police-for-abbott-comment-electoral-breach-ge17-bbcqt/

May has been reported to the police for breaking the electoral code.

I know it's on skwawkbox, but I don't suppose the DM or Times would print it.
Gove said it's okay to get your news from the site.

MaizieD Sun 04-Jun-17 16:10:42

I can't see anything coming of it, dj. sad

GracesGranMK2 Sun 04-Jun-17 16:19:32

Neither can I Maizie when you only see one person prosecuted after the last election issues.

It's good to have it clarified though.

I have put this on another thread (I am getting lost) but Owen Jones had just given an impassioned interview re May politicising her speech outside No. 10 after agreeing not to campaign today.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 04-Jun-17 16:21:41

He mentioned the blocked publication of the report too Jen.

varian Sun 04-Jun-17 17:09:31

The Tory candidate who is charged with breaching electoral law in 2015 has only just been charged, so I don't see much chance of TM being charged with anything before next Thursday, no matter what she says or does.

durhamjen Sun 04-Jun-17 17:20:49

Yes, I saw that, GracesGran.
I love the responses to his tweets. Hard to believe there are so many idiots on twitter.
Mind, considering trump is on it, and criticising Sadiq Khan for something he never said today, I am not that surprised.

durhamjen Sun 04-Jun-17 17:22:01

The important thing is, varian, that people who are unsure about who to vote for see it.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 04-Jun-17 17:29:02

May and Trump talked. May comes out all bullish - and far from thoughtful. Could he have told her this is how to win the election?

durhamjen Tue 06-Jun-17 21:44:13

Where is Andrew Mitchell's constituency?
He doesn't know how much the minimum wage is.

voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/06/06/massive-tory-fail-andrew-mitchell-didnt-know-what-the-minimum-wage-is/

I wonder how many of his constituents live on the minimum wage.

daphnedill Tue 06-Jun-17 22:12:33

Sutton Coldfield, one of the safest Conservative seats in the country.

durhamjen Tue 06-Jun-17 22:54:05

www.theweek.co.uk/85292/up-to-ten-million-britons-in-insecure-work-says-gmb

Who said wealth creates jobs?

durhamjen Tue 06-Jun-17 23:19:58

This is brilliant. I've said before about the papers having wraparounds. I bet the Tories here wish they'd bought the full page.

twitter.com/__NickRhodes__/status/871980625657331712/photo/1

whitewave Wed 07-Jun-17 07:27:09

Who ever wins on Thursday , there is no doubt that 3 weeks ago it all looked so different. The left on here were mocked as fantasists or stupid
Corbyn was mocked as a communist or worse.

But what in fact happened was that the more he was able to talk directly to the voter the more they have liked what they see and hear.
This man is no communist but a social democrat -a political narrative that has served this country so well over the past decades.
Corbyns style is unarguably different. He doesnt take part in the puerile game of character assasination, but gently and firmly addresses the issues and it is clearly working.

Corbyn is both gentle and made of steel. His principles of fairness for all have been stuck too throughout his parliamentary years.

The sad thing is that he almost certainly has not had sufficient time to talk through the layers of filth spewed by the gutter press, but one lesson i fervently hope has been learned is that, the gutter press has nothing to do with a healthy democratic process but is a stain that is both shameful and a threat to all fairness.

norose4 Wed 07-Jun-17 08:05:15

Are you saying that he has more untruths told about him than any other politician has, & that the 'causes' he champions are more reasonable /deserving than any another? Surley it depends on which side of the fence you are on , he has been very close to some dubious/ violent fences.

durhamjen Wed 07-Jun-17 08:10:13

That's the problem, norose, that's what the gutter press have told you and you believe it.

Theresa May has voted in the same lobby as Corbyn lots of times.
There are photos of Corbyn with McGuinness in the papers. They forget to put the photos of Tories with him, because it doesn't fit their remit.

durhamjen Wed 07-Jun-17 08:12:55

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40183147

Getting rid of our human rights would not have stopped this.
May had the power and the knowledge to stop this man coming into the UK. She didn't. Why not?

whitewave Wed 07-Jun-17 08:26:23

Because she wobbled whe faced with a serious decision

durhamjen Wed 07-Jun-17 08:28:34

What? Strong and stable Mayhem caused mayhem by wobbling?
Surely not.

norose4 Wed 07-Jun-17 08:32:12

No I didn't say I believed it any more than I believe many other things that are said about all politicians. It just comes across that Corbyns followers will absolutely deny that he has sailed closer to the wind on a personal level than other politicians have in a more distant capacity.

GracesGranMK2 Wed 07-Jun-17 08:32:16

May is a blamer; it is always someone else's fault. As you say Jen changing the human rights legislation, her default as she has done this bit of blaming before, would not have stopped the last three atrocities. She now seems to be whitewashing out her time at the Home Office when she was responsible for all these things.

rosesarered Wed 07-Jun-17 08:33:01

Your own political party broadcast whitewave grin

GracesGranMK2 Wed 07-Jun-17 08:37:53

You could just as easily say Norose, that other politicians are too frightened to attempt what JC has done. He may have sailed close to the wind but he tried while others locked themselves in the Westminster bubble. Perhaps the counter argument might be more apparent if the right wing press and the money behind it was not taken as serious facts when it is often just propaganda.

norose4 Wed 07-Jun-17 08:43:08

All politicians are to blame as are we the electorate, there are no easy answers to anything anymore it is an over populated unevenly distributed world. There will always be the haves & the have nots. It is wrong to put the blame on anyone party or policy unless in this country they have all made mistakes . But we should reminded ourselves how lucky we are not to be living under a cruel dictatorship or indeed in a famine torn country. I have voted for different parties throughout my life, trying to judge the best of a bad situation each time I much prefer this to doggedly following one party or party leader.

durhamjen Wed 07-Jun-17 08:51:35

theconversationuk.cmail20.com/t/r-l-yukddjn-iudkikukhu-q/

Churchill would disagree with May about Human Rights.