I am sure Sin Fein would have entered Westminster to support him Roses, they owe him .
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She can't possibly stay - she's fatally wounded. Boris, Hammond and DD must be plotting as I post. Rudd a no-no, too close to her.
I am sure Sin Fein would have entered Westminster to support him Roses, they owe him .
That's precisely why Sinn Fein probably won't take their seats - unless the DUP provokes them.
I really can't think of anyone who could replace May. She seemed like the least worst at the time - remember Andrea Leadsome was one choice. I have a feeling they have until September to find someone. Apparently Boris is the bookies favourite.
Labour have brought about a hung parliament, roses which makes life much more difficult for May. Not only for Brexit but also for her plans for decimation of public services That's why people are glad about the result.
May has 'morally' lost, anyway. She was so confident of coming back with a thumping great majority. Bad judgement and wasted precious time when she should have been concentrating on Brexit. The tories won't forgive her, the knives are being sharpened even now. I bet she won't see this year out as PM.
I don't think Sinn Fein have ever taken their seats have they dd?
I can't imagine anybody with any sense would want the job, although I expect the 1922 committee will find some poor sucker. It might be somebody practically unknown, as Cameron was when he was elected.
No, I don't think they have. Suggesting they would is pure speculation.
If Boris is the bookies favourite we will be as bad as America on voting in Trump. He will never be forgiven for the £350 million a week promise to the NHS which was an absolute lie.
Oh I do realise that Maizie it will make things more difficult for her certainly, but she will still be ( if she chooses to be) the PM. whereas Corbyn cannot be PM.
In my view she should carry on and I hope she will do.The Conservatives would do better to rally round with Brexit negotiations starting soon.
Do better for whom?
May chose not to trust them before the election. I doubt if they'll forget that.
Oh roses. you are so innocent!
The tories won't rally round her at all. They'll put up with her until they're confident of being able to get rid of her without losing power. She's humiliated them with this GE, she's insulted their intelligence by keeping them in the dark over her 'plan' for Brexit (along with the rest of the country) and she's proved to be weak, inconsistent and lacking in judgement. Not to mention incompetent as Home Secretary. She'll go...
There's not one political commentator across the spectrum that thinks she's here for anything but the short haul whilst they regroup and plot. There is no way she could govern with that bigoted rabble for even a few months let alone five years. There are huge constitutional issues anyway about her working with the DUP given the power sharing agreement.
May called the election in order to strengthen her hand in Brexit negotiations. Given that her objective was to obtain more seats, this election has been an absolute disaster for the Conservative Party in general and May in particular as it has done the exact opposite of strengthening her hand.
Given the amount of smearing and nastiness aimed at Corbyn, particularly from the mainstream media, I think the result achieved for Labour has been a triumph.
It seems that all political commentators agree that to rely on the DUP for support is a very dangerous manoeuvre which completely undermines the government's neutral stance - something that is necessary in order to maintain the very fragile political balance in Northern Ireland.
Corbyn can hardly be blamed for the mess we're in now - it was May that called the election.
I think Rory Stewart, Carlisle and the Borders, should be PM some time. Is anyone in his constituency? He seems good but what's he like as your MP?
Please, not Boris, he's hilarious but Brexit is not a joke. Not Gove either, shudders.
Yes; I like Rory Stewart but probably only because he makes great historical documentaries. I'd assume that he's a great constituency MP.
The Tories presented the election as a choice between May & Corbyn but I doubt if she demanded this presentation. I also doubt whether TM was alone in deciding to call a snap General Election, despite the Fixed Term Parliament Act.
Presumably those Cabinet ministers and MPs who went along with it all are equally to blame? They're all now up in arms and demanding May's head.
It would be interesting to know if any of them cautioned against a GE - I doubt it, they were probably so excited by the prospect of a landslide.
You know who looks like the only plausible candidate the moment - Ruth Davidson. However the Tory MPs would probably not vote for an openly lesbian Scottish woman. The other candidate who stood last time was that Welsh MP (whose name now escapes me ) who had links to a Christian organisation that tried to cure people of being gay.
DUP partnership is horrendous. These are not the Ulster Unionist Party of old (who have lost all their seats these days). These are the people who have links with paramilitary organisations. Whose supporters had a whole wing in the Maze - with IRA in the other one. Currently in a stand off with Sinn Fein so that there has been no government in Stormont for several months now. They made a complete mess up of an energy scheme. Cost a fortune. Several hundreds of millions out of the devolved budget. And then their leader refused to step down to facilitate a government being formed. They are anti gay rights, anti abortion and generally pugnacious.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/19/northern-ireland-first-minister-arlene-foster-urged-resign-fuel-subsidy-scheme (Have to say SF also stubborn, including their bizarre refusal to let their MPs take their seats.)
These are comments I put on another thread but they are probably more relevant here;
Just being talked about on the BEEB. Apparently May has been told she either sacks her two advisors or their will be a leadership challenge on Monday. It seems well informed.
Apparently one of the advisers has resigned; no comment yet about the other one. From what has been said it sounds as if she may find it difficult to manage without them so heaven knows what will happen. I really, really resent the Tories putting us in this position just before Brexit negotiations I didn't want anyway which they brought about. Total incompetence doesn't cover it.
Sin .Fein will not take their seats because they will not swear allegiance to queenie
I don't think Ruth Davidson is an Mp, is she?
I have tried to post an answer to the Op three times now but for some strange reason it doesn't appear.
The answer is obvious - it should be Jacob!
I don't think TM should be replaced. The conservatives still managed to secure the greater number of votes (8.6% more than labour) with her as party leader and PM, despite the un realistic promises made by Corbyn to motivate the younger generation.
I'll be bloody annoyed if she's forced to resign and/or there's another GE because I'm fed up with some who lose wanting to overturn
our democratic practices by wanting second referendums, another GE and forcing leaders out because they don't like the result.
Ever since she became PM because Cameron spat his dummy out after losing the Brexit vote and resigned, she's faced criticism for being an un elected PM and while I acknowledge that she expected a land slide victory, has lost seats and failed to reach a majority she still did better than Corbyn despite the number of seats Labour gained.
The conservatives didn't do well enough but they won and Corbyn and the labour party lost.
The whole thing about some Tory MPs insisting that May get rid of her two advisors is an interesting insight into how things work behind the scenes. It sounds as thought the manifesto that they came up with did not have the backing of all the cabinet as it was ill thought out - so why did they go ahead with it I wonder? There is some hint about the advisors acting in a rude and threatening way to ministers.
This politics business is truly a dirty one!
T May ignored the democratic process by calling the election. She didn't need to - she had to pass an act of parliament to have one in the first place. She wanted to get a mandate on her version of Brexit - she hasn't got that. People didn't get excited by her vision ( even though she hasn't told us exactly what that is). She has "won" the election, but only by scoring an own goal.
Well, the Conservatives (or should that be Team May) didn't win. They lost (threw away) a working majority.
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