DUP negotiations

Have you considered a name change radicalnan?

Sorry I didn't understand the reference to 'African Spice Girls'. Would you mind explaining please?

^ Governments are always making deals like this and always have. It's a political fact of life.^

With large sums of money attached, Baggs?

As I recall 'deals' are more usually made on promises of support for the minority party in the deal's pet project.

It's the 'Blimey spending money on ur ouw people' [sic] that's the give away mcem - sort of reminiscent of Britain First

I think you can always judge someone by the company they keep.

Who amongst us would be happy in the company of the DUP? Except May and cronies of course.

I don't have as much problem with the fact that there is background manoeuvring between parties over voting - I am sure that has always happened - as I do over the bribe, which is what it is; and with who is in receipt of it.

Inishowen, I also live in Northern Ireland. There is no way I'm getting involved in this discussion either.
I'll just say that Northern Ireland politics are very different to that on the mainland.
A definite throwback to our many troubled years.

Although l grasped the gist of the post I'd really like to ask radical to explain that specific phrase.

I think that radical was throwing in a red herring about overseas aid in a vain and hopeless attempt to deflect the venom from the DUP vote purchase. Now, back to the real world; I strongly object to my taxes being used to fund this house of cards. Even as a bystander, I can see disaster looming, does TM really think that she will now have a majority? Really think that she will have the support of ALL of her party? I think not. What about gay MPs? I don't think for one minute they will be willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with people who think they are wicked and evil. How many women MPs support the right to choose? Most of them I would hope, so they won't be there with the DUP either. This is a desperate, disgusting attempt to hold on to power at any price and those who keep twittering on about Corbyn being worse; you really need to take a good look at yourselves. This is not about who is in government, it is about how they are trying to stay there after the stupid irresponsible general election.

Agree with all your main points Gill and am not naive but since this is a phrase I 've never come across I wonder about its source. I have simply asked politely about its precise meaning.

Good reasons? Oh yes, keep the provos out of the news and fairly inactive. Terrorists win.

No-one is blaming the DUP radical of course they'll fight for themselves -who would expect them to care about anyone or anything that didn't suit their own best interests? But this government is supposed to be the UK government and many of us bitterly blame them for their unprincipled, corrupt undemocratic behaviour

Would those finding the bribe the offensive bit find a similar hypothetical deal between,say, Corbyn's Labour and Another Party as bad? Or would it be excusable because one wanted one or both of those parties in power?

I was thinking more of cash tributes to Rome and the Danegeld, maiz, but, yes, I take your point.

Baggs I agree ( but some never will)

Labour held talks with the DUP in 2010 and again in 2015 !

I was thinking more of cash tributes to Rome and the Danegeld, maiz



I hope I wouldn't find it acceptable in any party. It's corrupt and, to me, a sign of weakness as well as a total lack of integrity.

I am ashamed of my fellow countrypeople who approve of this.

Did they offer them large amounts of cash, roses?

MPs of all parties have to work with lots of people to whom their views are opposed, such as large numbers of their constituents. What the NI MPs think on gay marriage and abortion is not relevant to the rest of the UK where better laws than NI has are already in place.

sorry for sentence construction mistakes

Politics always involves money or money equivalents.

And, yes, of course this deal is a sign of weakness. So what? Only weak governments have to make such deals to get through legislation they want to get through. Like the Tory/LibDem coalition did.

Exactly.Deals in politics happen all the time.
The outrage shown is from posters who hate both the Conservatives and the DUP.
If Labour had won the greater number of seats and needed the SNP, money would have certainly changed hands.

And I would have heartily disapproved of that too. It is not about who is doing it, but about the principle behind the action.

Essentially they are buying votes - just as the squires used to do.

So she found the magic money tree after all?