Momentum are getting stronger

I've just been chacking it out while you were posting, ww. I might follow it for a bit and see. I don't think it is RM himself. It describes the account as "A grassroots movement to get Jacob Rees-Mogg into number 10".

There is another Twitter persona that might be the man himself but it hasn't got a blue tick yet.

But you must have had a grin bags

I already follow "@Maomentum". That's rather fun.

"Moggmentum is supposed to be a response to Labour campaigners’ superior social media presence. It even calls for Rees-Mogg to be Tory leader."

Praise for Labour. Should please you, bags, being a strong Labour supporter.

You said you hoped I'd post stuff on here that I found on Moggmentum. Here's something to listen to.

Hey Baggs... got any grapes? Quack!

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As I half expected Baggs, you haven't the courtesy to explain what the little film meant. When your veneer of affability wears off, you resort to a mixture of sniggering and spite rather than addressing any of the points I or trish have made.

I thought you said you were going to look for interesting stuff about Rees-Mogg, bags.
I didn't think you meant Moggmentum.

Chat about ducks seems to have replaced the pictures of kittens. Now is this whatifery of goadfery? (I am not a Mumsnet aficionado I'm afraid) It is certainly a level of rudeness that decides other people's views and discussion can be treated with any degree of disrespect and mockery. Perhaps we should just call it the good old fashioned words - anti-democratic and an attempt to repress.

bags poor show - eleo is probably the most moderate of all the posters. She doesn't deserve to be treated like that.

I would also like to know what the film stands for.

The film doesn't stand for anything. It's just a film . What you want to know is what Baggs made of it and why she identifies with the duck. I can see several possibilities:
1. She never gets what she asks for and when she does she doesn't like it.
2. She likes asking for things people haven't got.
3. She is just contrary.
Can't decide which applies.

"a level of rudeness that decides other people's views and discussion can be treated with any degree of disrespect and mockery."

Now, where have I seen that level of rudeness before? If you can't take it, ladies, don't dish it out.

There have been jeers at posters' low IQ, at their doubt about things to which the afficionados have already and irrevocably fixed their attitudes and allegiancies, at their supposed hidden agenda of boosting Tory power by mentioning what they see as possible weaknesses in Labour strategy, and even a post accusing someone of being a software application that runs automated tasks (scripts) over the Internet.

Not all those by the same posters above, but the overall attitude of superiority and contempt apples to many who post on these threads.

Contrary will do, but contrarian is better. I take a contrary view to a post or posts to find out more, to challenge what appear to me to be assumptions, and so on. It's a common discursive device. Where people actually engage rather than talking down to me and telling me what I think, they quite often enhance and modify my view. Which is the whole point of the exercise.

The duck film was more a comment on the kind of responses my posts get, the tone of responses that seem to lecture me, that seem angry with me, that tell me what sort of person I am rather than debating the issue, that snipe at me, and so on. Me being a duck getting unphased by it all is what I aim at. I hope that helps people's understanding (faint hope! I must admit).

I intend (typed untend first; freudian skip? blast! slip (onehanded typing as right is out of commission)) to find out more about JRM as well as following moggmentum.

Might I suggest yous talk about Momentum now instead of about me?

Thank you bags for your explanation of the little cartoon film. I must admit it left me puzzled. Mind you I think the duck would be in the oven now left to me.

But the lemonade seller might have investigated the grape market and discovered a new set of customers, and a new income source.

Here is a question - how would the lemonade seller get his existing customers to buy their lemonade from him, and stop so many of them driving to the next town for orange squash?

And how would you persuade the lemonade seller to spend less of his profits in the next town and more among his fellows?

Come to think of it, I have p, a few times, asked a shop to stock certain items that I want and that they weren't selling. Usually they did get in the requested items, sometimes as a permanent addition to their stock and sometimes as a special purchase, e.g. when the local village shop got in a whole box of a certain bread flour for me so long as I bought it all (because they didn't think other customers would want it).

The duck film was also a jokey way for me to look at how I felt about some posts directed AT me, a defuser, a way of coping. It was for my benefit more than anyone else's. It worked too .

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Better than telling some of you to fuck off with your "you this..., you that..." stuff, which is what I wanted to say sometimes.

Well, in effect Baggs that is what you have just done.

But with more grace.

Any answers to my request for advice for the lemonade seller? (which everyonbe will recognise as an allegory for how do we manage exports when we no longer have the EU umbrella, and how do we encourage spending on things made in this country by the small businesses who are ignored by successive governments in favour of wooing multinationals)

baggs is swearing acceptable? I've refrained so far though often been tempted!

Elegran Possibly less sarcasm than:

".... I think you'd find if you could be arsed to rake around as much as you seem to about Tories.

" .... I'm quite flattered that you've even rubbed two brain cells together with regard to my political views."

but I wouldn't say there's much "grace" in telling people you'd like them to tell them to fuck off.

I wish GN had an emoji to convey existential despair.

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