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How much will a flight cost after Brexit?

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trisher Fri 14-Jul-17 13:51:03

With Ryan Air stating that it may not fly to the EU from Britain after Brexit and easyjet setting up an operation in Austria are we looking towards a time when there will be no cheap flights to EU countries?

rosesarered Sun 16-Jul-17 19:32:43

Here we go again.....hmm

Tegan2 Sun 16-Jul-17 19:34:34

Prior to the referendum the voting public should have been given a list of what things would be affected by leaving the EU and then told what the solution to those problems would be.

GillT57 Sun 16-Jul-17 19:35:36

the problem is varian that many, (not all, I acknowledge) people did not know what they were voting for, and as this thread has shown, too many people, whether they be politicians or posters on GN, just dismiss concerns as being scaremongering. This thread is only about one potential area of concern, air space, there are thousands of other things to be thrashed out, it is impossible to overestimate the scope of this, to my mind, unnecessary task. Just what did people think was going to happen? I notice there has been a lot less talk recently of 'they need us more than we need them' and 'we are BMW's biggest market' from Davies and his team. I assume they have started to get bogged down in the details, details such as this air space issue.

GillT57 Sun 16-Jul-17 19:38:10

Agreed Tegan2. if the odd bloody gives you the vapours Maggie then I apologise, but being patronised and told by Brexit voters that we just have to wait and see, makes me very angry.

varian Sun 16-Jul-17 19:41:12

Do you ever get the feeling that the brexiters ( on GN and in RL) have got their fingers in their ears and just chant "la la la la la"?

Maggiemaybe Sun 16-Jul-17 19:41:59

if the odd bloody gives you the vapours Maggie

You just can't stop yourself, can you? It's the fucking rudeness that I object to.

GillT57 Sun 16-Jul-17 19:43:40

ok Maggie you win on the rudeness stakes. How vulgar

Maggiemaybe Sun 16-Jul-17 19:46:13

Just making a point, Gill. Hope you got it.

Maggiemaybe Sun 16-Jul-17 19:47:58

And now that I've reminded myself yet again to keep off the News & Politics thread, I'll leave you to your sport.

rosesarered Sun 16-Jul-17 19:51:04

Varian I often get the feeling that Remainers on here and in RL will never, ever stop moaning.

petra Sun 16-Jul-17 19:51:11

In my head I'm singing: Always look on the bright side of life.
I'm sure some will get it, but just in case you don't , it's sung in the last scene of The Life of Brian.

varian Sun 16-Jul-17 19:58:02

Brexiters who dismissed information as scaremongering before the vote, now call it moaning. They bury their heads in the sand and never will acknowledge how much their foolhardiness is damaging our country, our families, our grandchildren's future. I don't expect them to apologise, but they should.

Welshwife Sun 16-Jul-17 19:58:27

I see that the airport owners have now warned about all flight being stopped for a couple of months is plans are not put in place and agreements made.

trisher Sun 16-Jul-17 20:08:30

I suppose they are just after some publicity like Ryan Ww but never worry GNetters have said things will be all right and of course they know. hmm

MaizieD Sun 16-Jul-17 20:10:18

Maybe they should read some of our threads and realise that they're just 'speculating'. I'm sure that would put their minds at rest.

Silly airport owners: what do they know?

GillT57 Sun 16-Jul-17 20:16:29

Maybe O'Leary should paint it on the side of a bus, maybe then people would believe him grin.

I don't like the man, but that is irrelevant to the point, as are comments about how much the Kinnocks have been paid by the EU, what about Farage who boasts about how many meetings he doesn't attend?

This is the first of many potential problems and we can't just sit back and trust that everything will be ok in this the best of all possible worlds (Candide, the one book I remember from French A'level, which is now ever more relevant, strangely)

ninny Sun 16-Jul-17 22:24:25

GillT57 for goodness sake get a grip. I voted out and I'm glad I did.

Jalima1108 Sun 16-Jul-17 22:34:04

Yes, it will need a lot of work to ensure that flights continue smoothly and uninterrupted when Brexit does occur - and it is as much in the interests of all the airlines and members of the EU as it is for the UK.
Politicians, EU Commissioners can posture as much as they like but the real work will be carried out by experts who know what they are doing.

NfkDumpling Sun 16-Jul-17 22:43:58

Agree Jalima.

Tegan2 Sun 16-Jul-17 22:48:59

So politicians don't actually 'know' what they're doing when it comes to the details of brexit. The very people who persuaded us to vote for it?? Who are these experts. Again I thought the brexiteers were the ones who told us not to listen to experts. It's like being down the rabbit hole these days confused....

NfkDumpling Sun 16-Jul-17 22:58:05

The experts in this case aren't the academics quoting statistics but the airline owners whose interest and business depends on the practicalities of keeping the airways open and working.

Jalima1108 Sun 16-Jul-17 23:05:03

Why would a politician be an aviation expert?
I did not say they did not know what they are aiming for politically, just that they will have experts to carry out each and every adjustment, transfer, that needs to be made.
Why do you think governments everywhere have civil servants, teams of advisers? Do you expect every politician to have in-depth knowledge of every field involved? When put in charge of a department they need to be on top of their brief quickly but there are teams beavering away to advise, prompt, work out the legalities etc.

I do not mean just UK politicians, I mean all.
To think otherwise is astonishingly naive.

I did not vote Brexit btw before I have any rude replies and I am not in a rabbit hole either.

Tegan2 Sun 16-Jul-17 23:33:24

'Do you expect every politician to have in-depth knowledge of every field involved?'
..well, I do expect them to have that knowledge when they are persuading their constituents to vote for something that will have far reaching effects on their lives, and the lives of their children and grandchildren.

MaizieD Sun 16-Jul-17 23:39:56

When put in charge of a department they need to be on top of their brief quickly

Problem is, Jalima, that the Brexit ministers are not on top of their brief, nor, from the noises coming out of Whitehall, do they appear to be giving their teams much of an indication of what their plans are. Civil servants and 'experts'are working in the dark.

Liam Fox has today admitted that there won't be any Free Trade Agreements lined up for when we actually Leave

From my twitter timeline this evening:

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Well, we knew that before the referendum. How come it's taken him 13 months after it for the truth to sink in? (and what has he been doing in all that time?)

Tegan2 Mon 17-Jul-17 00:24:01

(and what has he been doing in all that time?)
.....a lot of travelling to sort out all these new trade deals; must have to spend ages fiddlingsorting out his expenses....