What should be done about Public Sector pay?

Corbyn's no more than 20 times the lowest pay should be easily achievable in public and private pay, Jalima.

I remember years ago there being a furore in the newspapers about the cleaner in a London firm (solicitors or financial?) who paid more tax than her boss.
I wonder where they both are now and if she is doing better.

Our apprentice pays more tax than I do Jalima as he "earns" more . I put the word earns in inverted commas because the term is rather inappropriate for him. A more appropriate word would be "gets" .

I found it - it was 10 years ago, so I hope she's doing better now.
www.standard.co.uk/news/the-cleaner-liable-for-22-tax-while-her-apax-bosses-pay-just-10-6592772.html

Even the bosses felt embarrassed by the difference but I wonder if embarrassment is a thing of the past?

The width of pay scale in some of these public service jobs is very wide and not till a person has been doing the job for a few years does the pay get at all reasonable against other jobs - also by the time qualifications are gained these people are several years older than many people starting work.

Some one a couple of pages ago said we had plenty of doctors and nurses to fill the gaps - that is not the experience of the people actually trying to fill the vacancies whether as locums or permanent!

I know a lady who cleans for various people ( not me) all cash in hand and she has a waiting list too . Was thinking of asking her if she could pass a few of her "clients" on to me . I am a meticulous cleaner .

That's why capital gains and income tax should be equalised, Jalima, so bosses see no advantage.

Gillybob, why are you always so disparaging about your apprentice? Did you not choose him?
Can you not sack him if he is not doing his job?

Could he be the same one who worked for my plumber and put the radiator on wonky?

My plumber has his son as his apprentice. I wonder what would have happened if he had done that.
Fortunately he didn't - perfectly straight and working well.

His son may have put it on straight. He's seven.
However, all is well now!

Who was it who said that waspi women should take on apprenticeships?
Seems like there could be a lot of plumbing apprenticeships around.

I am not a WASPI woman, but I could take on a cleaning apprentice.
I could teach them what to do without actually having to do it myself.

But think of the paperwork, Jalima.

Actually it was take on apprenticeships, not apprentices.
You should become an apprentice yourself.
Some Tory MP said it in a commons debate, I believe.

Let's home in a bit closer on Primrose's statement

Those working in the public sector probably do deserve a pay cut then.

Sorry to go on about it but she has not explained what she meant by this and telling us to read her posts is not very enlightening.

I can only conclude from this that she a) thinks that public sector workers are overpaid and b) that she thinks that people's pay needs to equal that of the lowest paid; a race to the bottom.

These are the sort of attitudes I associate with Victorian mill owners..

Oh, yes.
I'm too old now to learn how to fit radiators and boilers.

Perhaps she will enlighten us MaizieD

I took it as irony.

MaizieD
You can't take one sentence out of context.
I posted an explanation already - what don't you understand about fake numbers?

Corbyn's no more than 20 times the lowest pay should be easily achievable in public and private pay

How durhamjen ?

It could save you a lot of money, Jalima.

Changing the law, primrose.

Jalima exactly. I was saying if GracesGran was right about the average salary in the UK being £12k, then a teacher earning, for example, £36k is actually on 3 times the national average. That's a pretty decent income, I think. (3 times national average)

I was using it as an example to show how those calculations just cannot be correct, as I was fed up being challenged to prove that these are fake numbers.

It's interesting that all the fuss is made about the style of my reply and taking once sentence completely out of context, nothing ever said about fake numbers.

I'll try and refrain from this sort of post in future, as people seem to have real difficulty in concepts.

So what calculations are correct, primrose?

durhamjen ha ha ha
What would happen then? Paid through limited companies or umbrella companies. Holding companies offshore where profits are drawn down to avoid income tax? Do you really think at people who earn this sort of salary are not smart enough to change the framework of their employment?

durhamjen calculations for what?