I Will Deal With It

The video is hilarious. JC and his cronies put down by Momentum.

As I said, you just don't get it.

What's not to get? Perhaps the irony is lost on you.

The irony is lost on you.

voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/07/29/tories-label-momentum-video-offensive-for-debating-their-policies/

Thatcher replacing student grants with loans in order to put poorer students into debtwhy? what would be the point?

With the huge increase in the number of those now attending university I don't see how the re introduction of student grants would be possible. Just because someone has parents who can afford to assist them financially through uni. doesn't necessarily mean that they will.

My brother received a student grant. My parents were divorced so mum couldn't assist him financially and even though my father could well have afforded to give more than the bare minimum to my mum in child support, he chose not too and also opted out of any financial support whatsoever while my brother did his degree.

So if nepotism is 'Tory policy', why does the Labour front keep hiring each others children? I'm sure you'll 'deal with it' in a traditional way.

People can see how hypocritical they are.

You really haven't read the link to see the irony, have you.

Oh well, nothing new in that.

"And it is true that Jeremy Corbyn’s son Seb has been criticised for taking advantage of the “Who you know” network to get a job working for John McDonnell. Doesn’t that support the argument that’s being made, though – that even an MP’s son had to rely on this system to get work?

But the most effective defence of Momentum’s video is probably the easiest.

If the assertions it makes are so offensive to Conservatives, then why are they based on Conservative policies of the past 40 years?"

So are you saying that the only way grammar school educated Seb Corbyn was able to get a job was through Daddy?

You're right, it's a terrible state of affairs. What do other Cambridge graduates do for work when they don't have Daddies to give them jobs?

"My brother received a student grant. My parents were divorced so mum couldn't assist him financially and even though my father could well have afforded to give more than the bare minimum to my mum in child support, he chose not too and also opted out of any financial support whatsoever while my brother did his degree."
So basically your mum and dad split up and then your dad refused to support his son through University but relied upon a government grant to pay for him, isn't that equivalent to fraud? I hope you reported him and made sure he was prosecuted. You are keen to prevent fraud aren't you Smileless2012

It supports the argument about the "Who you know network" but isn't it rather hypoctritical to criticise it on the one hand but take advantage of it on the other, especially when it's been taken advantage of by the son of the party's leader?

I don't agree that exchanging student grants for student loans with the intention of putting poorer students into debit was a Conservative policy. It may have been the unfortunate result but that doesn't mean it was the intention.

No trisher it wasn't fraud. My father wasn't hiding assets or making false declarations with regard to his income. He paid what he was required by too by law and nothing over that.

He wasn't a particularly good father which sadly isn't a criminal offence.

If you're going to continue to try and bait me with posts regarding fraud, perhaps you should find out what fraud actually means.

Who started the student loans company?
Who was PM in 1990?
Of course it was a Tory policy!

Nepotism is alive and well right across all parties in politics, in the media and probably in all kinds of places that do not get the same publicity.

Yes, student loans were a Tory policy, no one's saying it wasn't but saying the intention of that policy was to put poorer students into debt, which it does in your link dj is the opinion of the writer of the article.

I bet Thornberry's husband could help with a definition of fraud.

Poor old Seb with his Cambridge degree. Worthless. Just as well Daddie's mate could hand him a £48k a year job as a 'bag carrier' (New Statesman description)

Nepotism is so rife in the Labour Party, the Labour supporting press writes about it
www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/06/what-labour-s-red-princes-tell-us-about-britain

Seb Corbyn
Will Straw
Stephen Kinnock
David Prescott
Joe Dromey

"their offspring enjoyed affluent upbringings and effortless transitions from Oxbridge into high-flying jobs. What does this tell us about the state of the Labour Party "

Can you see now why the video is ironic and a blog post saying it's Tory policy simply isn't?

Jobs for the boys all round hey?

Now let's not get accused of being sexist roses; jobs for the girls as well no doubt

As some tv 'star' said
'It's so difficult to get on when your parents are in the business'
LOL

Can't remember exactly which dynasty she was from now, there are so many.

This is interesting, (Radio 4 news at 17.00) apparently there's a 9 billion black hole in University educators pension which can only be filled by 3 approaches.

1. The educators pay a lot more into their pension pots

2. Rich university benefactors pay a lot more into the universities to cover the shortfall

3. Student loans are increased to cover the shortfall.

I wonder how JC will deal with thisif he ever becomes PM; heaven forbid.

PS personally I don't have a problem with 1 and 2 but don't support 3.

I wonder how the students at Bath university would feel about paying more fees now that they know their Vice Chancellor earns £400,000 a year, lives rent free in a Georgian property, claimed £20,000 in expenses last year, included in that was £2 for a packet of biscuits.

According to the news on now on BBC the deficit is 17 to 19 billion

Putting in a claim for a packet of biscuits; you couldn't make it up could you.