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I Will Deal With It

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Anniebach Sun 23-Jul-17 13:25:07

If you have a worry/problem or are concerned about an injustice ,voice your concerns and the person you voice them to replies 'I Will Deal With It' what would you expect?

MaizieD Tue 25-Jul-17 07:19:59

Vince Cable @vincecable
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23 Jul

#Labour has backtracked on #StudentDebt . Yet #LibDems still attacked for breaking pledge in 2010. .@nick_clegg apologised. Your turn Jeremy

What Vince Cable actually tweeted.

nightowl Tue 25-Jul-17 01:01:44

But then Vince knows a lot about broken pledges on this very matter doesn't he?

nightowl Tue 25-Jul-17 00:46:53

If Vince Cable really has called on Jeremy Corbyn to apologise for breaking a pledge then all his years in politics have failed to give him an understanding of how government works. I'm afraid it is essential to win an election before it is possible to keep a pledge in the manifesto Primrose. I sincerely hope that Vince Cable knows that by now.

Eloethan Tue 25-Jul-17 00:44:29

Primrose65 Is it just Corbyn you object to or his anti-austerity policies, and which politicians do you admire for their "straight talking, honest politics"?

MaizieD Tue 25-Jul-17 00:01:27

And no amount of tweets from equally careless readers (or believers in hearsay) will turn what Corbyn actually said into what they would like him to have said.

MaizieD Mon 24-Jul-17 23:58:13

I don't think your ability to read more into a sentence or two than is actually written on the page would stand up to scrutiny in a court of law Primrose.

It's a good job that dj did read those links, otherwise people might have believed that what you were saying was a fact.

Primrose65 Mon 24-Jul-17 23:21:36

I mean, 130 retweets and comments like 'Is he also diabetic'
It's really not just me who thought he meant something else.

twitter.com/MattChorley/status/889046925147869184

GracesGranMK2 Mon 24-Jul-17 23:20:37

So there are people on Twitter and Vince Cable who are happy to misrepresent Jeremy Corbyn [shock horror].

Now you wouldn't have expected that would you.

Primrose65 Mon 24-Jul-17 23:14:30

You need to talk to quite a few other people who've got it wrong too. Take a look at Twitter!
I think Vince Cable has called on JC to apologise for breaking a pledge. He got it wrong too.

No one understood that 'deal with it' means ..... what exactly?

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 23:05:03

Of course they can, primrose. I am just pointing out to YOU where you are wrong, or trying to mislead.
Have you not noticed that many people do not look at links?
Including you?

Primrose65 Mon 24-Jul-17 23:02:42

nightowl I don't need to justify my opinion! Maybe he just can't communicate in a straight and honest way to ordinary people like me?

nightowl Mon 24-Jul-17 22:55:54

Thank you GG, and MamaCaz. It's like a parallel universe on here at times. I sometimes wonder if I've fallen down the rabbit hole.

On what do you base your last statement Primrose? Where has Jeremy Corbyn lied on this particular matter?

Primrose65 Mon 24-Jul-17 22:53:36

Everyone can read the articles dj.

People know when something is implied. And they know 'straight talking, honest politics'

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 22:48:59

The Kentonline link had those words, but the article only had that line. The rest of it was about Damien Green trying to say the Tories would do something to help the students, and his spokesman saying he didn't mean that.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 24-Jul-17 22:48:07

Hit, nail, head, Nightowl. Ridiculous indeed.

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 22:46:57

"The Labour leader used an interview with NME magazine to say he did not believe people should be punished for having the “historical misfortune” of going to university when it was more expensive.

His party’s manifesto has already promised the abolition of tuition fees from as early as this year – if Labour wins the election.

But in a cover interview for the well-known music magazine, he said: “First of all, we want to get rid of student fees altogether." "

Evening Standard link.

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 22:43:49

"But asked whether he could try to clear the £30bn backlog of student debt since the higher fees were introduced, the Labour leader said he would like to.

“Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I'm looking at ways we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing the debt burden,” he told the NME.

But he added: “I don't have the simple answer for it at this stage. I don't think anybody would expect me to, because this election was called unexpectedly.
“We had two weeks to prepare all of this – but I'm very well aware of that problem.

“And I don't see why those that had the historical misfortune to be at university during the £9,000 period should be burdened excessively compared to those that went before or those that come after. I will deal with it.” "

Politicshome link.

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 22:39:28

"There is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden.

I don’t have the simple answer for it at this stage – I don’t think anybody would expect me to, because this election was called unexpectedly, we had two weeks to prepare all of this – but I’m very well aware of that problem."
From the Canary link.

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 22:38:07

I have just read all the articles. They said that he did not say he pledged to write off debts.
Reread them.

nightowl Mon 24-Jul-17 22:37:05

I can't see anywhere in your links that Jeremy Corbyn was quoted as saying he would write off existing debts Primrose.

Primrose65 Mon 24-Jul-17 22:36:37

I think you should read the articles. Some actually say
pledges to scrap tuition fees and to write off debts

not just imply it with headlines.

The whole country got it wrong. You have to ask why Labour were so bad at communicating.

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 22:33:42

If you read the articles, they didn't get it wrong. Some of the headlines are misleading, but all the articles are correct; he didn't say he would get rid of student debt.

That's very kind of you, primrose, to put those links up.

rosesarered Mon 24-Jul-17 22:26:54

Certainly not trisher and for those students today who apply themselves and go on to get good degrees ( with a bit of partying along the way) good on them.
There are those who seem to be striving for liver cirrhosis sadly, who waste their time, leave with a poor degree and spend years repaying back the money.My own
Nephew was one of them.

Primrose65 Mon 24-Jul-17 22:22:42

Facts are always good. So looking back in the press, it's interesting to see how they interpreted his statements at the time he made them.

Labour supporting press

www.thecanary.co/2017/06/01/theresa-mays-worst-nightmare-just-came-true-corbyn-offers-voters-winning-proposition/

Local press

www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/no-u-turn-over-huge-issue-128226/

Political press

www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/86362/jeremy-corbyn-labour-could-write

London newspapers editied by ex Tory chancellors press

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-could-write-off-student-debt-for-graduates-who-paid-9000-a3554841.html

Looks like everyone got it wrong at the time and no one in the Labour party bothered to correct them. That's a first!

trisher Mon 24-Jul-17 22:21:51

rar do I sense a little of the green eyed monster in your post?