I Will Deal With It

"Boardroom shenanigans bedevil it. It has gone through three bosses in the space of just 20 months, adding to the sense of an organisation in crisis. Its £200,000-a-year chief executive, Steve Lamey, was suspended last month. Legally, it is owned by the Department for Education in England, and its equivalents in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, suggesting that Justine Greening, the education secretary, has lead responsibility. But repayments are governed by the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills, which is headed by Greg Clark, the secretary of state, while a Transformation Programme that began in 2013 was a result of collaboration with BIS, the Cabinet Office and the Treasury. . It has 2,600 staff based in Glasgow, Darlington and Llandudno Junction. Hinduja Global Solutions runs outsourced contact centres for SLC that it claims provide “best in class” service."

The board can't run itself, let alone sort out the student loans.

Yes, poor Seb with his Cambridge degree and can't find himself a job. My heart's aching too .....

The Hinduja brothers gave massive donations to Labour - £1 million for the Millenium Dome, for example,
www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/feb/24/uk.labour
Not sure it reflects well on any political party tbh.

So you can find that out, but can't be bothered to read about the students who have been conned by them from today's link.
Says it all, really.

www.theguardian.com/money/2017/aug/05/student-loan-company-finance-complaints-debt

I have also wondered about the work that the SLC sends out to private companies. Some of the letters and phone calls we received came from another agency and I do wonder if this agency charges per contact they make with the student, regardless of if that contact is necessary. If they do they are scamming a fortune from the tax payer.

Jeremy deals with Venezuela.

Liberal Democrat leader Sir Vince Cable said: "Labour have again failed to condemn President Maduro as he slides his country closer to dictatorship."

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/venezuela-jeremy-corbyn-blasted-for-not-condemning-president-maduro-a3606156.html

He condemned all violence in Venezuela. That included the violence perpetrated by the state and by some of the protesters. An outright condemnation of one man wouldn't help things at all.

He would if it were a right wing government- Pinochet -Chile!

I do find this simplistic logic really annoying.

Michael eats carrots,
Donkeys eat carrots,
Therefore Michael is a donkey.

We can all, surely, see the flaws in this so why not in:

Jeremy believes in socialism
Bad things are done by a man in Venezuela who believes in socialism
Therefore Jeremy will do bad things.

It's really quite pathetic, ridiculous and infantile.

So you support a right wing dictator nigglynellie. It seems rather ridiculous to compare the left wing Venezuelan system which has struggled with economic problems with someone who from the outset had no respect for human life.

"From the moment Pinochet assumed power, he wanted to instill a sense of fear in the Chilean population. These fears manifested with his authorization of the "Caravan of Death". Following the coup on September 11, Pinochet ordered this Chilean Army death squad to target the leaders of the PU by any means necessary. The Caravan of Death, under the leadership of Sergio Arellano Stark, killed 68 people within three days, by stabbing, beating and shooting them. The establishment of the Caravan of Death served three main purposes: 1) silence dissent through murder, 2) weed out military officials who were not aligned with Pinochet's regime and 3) establish fear within leadership ranks. The Caravan of Death resulted in the institutionalization of a state-sponsored system of terror.[27]"

That's not the logic at all gg

Jeremy goes to Venezuela
Jeremy says they are 'an inspiration to all of us.'
Jeremy will not condemn a socialist dictator who is out of control, murdering the opposition, locking up thousands and driving the economy of the country into the ground.

Plenty of people, myself included, think Jeremy will 'do bad things' as he openly praises dictators who 'do bad things'.

Defending his actions by comparing them to a primary school logic puzzle is really quite pathetic, ridiculous and infantile!

That's still not logical. It is expressing your view I agree but the thought process shows no logic at all. Because of the way you keep putting it forward I thought we needed to bring it down to the logic we were taught in primary school.

GG You're deflecting from his behaviour trying to attack the 'logic' of my opinion.
Is it because his behaviour is indefensible?
Let's concentrate on Jeremy.
Because, logically, he's the topic of this thread.

Some wonderful #Corbyn must condemn are running on Twitter.

Corbyn's failure to condemn Kristin Shepard's 1980 shooting of JR Ewing speaks volumes about his Marxist agenda #CorbynMustCondemn

Surely #CorbynMustCondemn Marx and Engels for their drunken rowdiness in London in the mid 1800s. He's responsible for them after all

#CorbynMustCondemn The metamorphosis of lost single socks into Tupperware

I'm deadly serious: #CorbynMustCondemn the outrageous price increases on Cadbury's Freddos.

If Corbyn were responsible for what is happening in Venezuela or had any control over it I could understand the silly 'he must condemn' comments. As it is he has done just what anyone should and condemned the "violence on all sides". Now do tell me just what May has condemned - certainly not her friends in Saudi to whom she is prepared to sell arms.

It's a shame. If he has any influence, he should use it. He's quick off the mark when it comes to phone calls congratulating Maduro. Being on the 'right side of history' means telling your friends when they overstep the mark or move towards dictatorship.

He's just not a leader. He's basically admitting publically he has no global influence at all, as are all the people saying 'he can do nothing'.

Joke about it all you want. It's the only thing the far left seems capable of doing when things go wrong.

Owen Jones made an ass of himself using the Saudi's as deflection. Did May hold up the Saudi's as a model nation?

And yeah, everyone on Twitter is finding it hysterically funny.

Bloody hell, primrose, May gives out certificates like confetti to her donors allowing them to sell arms and planes to Saudi to bomb Yemen to bits, along with lots of kids.
You must know that, surely.
Perhaps you support it.

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jul/27/childrens-crisis-yemen-conflict-80-percent-kids-urgent-aid-acute-malnutrition

What's that got to do with Corbyn and Venezuela?
Save the May criticism for the govt thread - this is about Corbyn.

"Did May hold up the Saudi's as a model nation?"

Perhaps you should take your own advice and not ask questions about May.

The Tweeter you quoted is just plain wrong Primrose - as are you. The joke is about the people who are asking Corbyn to condemn anything they can think of to put him in what they see as a bad light. Who else is asked to do this? I think his reaction is that of a leader. He is not prepared to jump to the nonsense we can see from the right-wing pr with this 'Corbyn must condemn' campaign. No wonder it and those persuading it have become a laughing stock and are being belittled on Twitter.

not pr - press.

pursuing not persuading.

Sorry - time to do something else I think.

Can May only be mentioned on the Government thread and Corbyn on this thread ( and every other one it seems )? Who knew? Is it in the rules?