I Will Deal With It

It's in those unwritten rules that Gnet posters only find out about when they trangress. Mind you, Primrose hasn't been posting here for very long so she's clearly a fast learner (or is she making up a few?) . She's also turned out to be one of the bossy variety of posters who likes to tell other posters how to behave.
I'm just sniping from the sidelines because all this bossiness really pees me off. It starts pointless arguments and distracts from the ongoing discussion.

Well I'm trying to sort out the rules re humour, tongue in cheek, when to be serious etc etc and failing miserably - oh well

Primrose bossy? It isn't Primrose who tells poster to leave a thread or tell posters to shut up. I can't forget there was a poster who sent PM's telling other posters to ignore a certain poster , I don't recall there being much cricicsm or talk of bossing then.

I don't think your failing maryeliza - you made me smile

That's because you don't suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome, Anniebach !

Threads seem to deflect, divert, develop, regress etc - isn't that normal? So how can it be said that, in this case for example, May can't be mentioned on this thread? Why is it OK for Corbyn to come up on what seems like every thread whether it's appropriate or not? Obviously ( it seems to me) people are free to post anything on any thread about anyone although that will be with varying degrees of appropriateness. I think a joke about Corbyn when people are making a serious point about a real threat to world peace is very inappropriate - but then maybe my sense of humour doesn't fit with many on GN. What seems odd is that someone would tell a poster not to mention May on this thread. Why?

Comparing the attitudes of two political leaders to unacceptable regimes seems perfectly valid to me - whatever conclusion you reach.

Because when things are desperate and the country is sinking it's easier to target someone like Corbyn who isn't in power and hasn't any responsibility for the mess. It's a bit like singing as the ship goes down-no bloody use but it keeps some people happy and stops them thinking about the disaster that's happening.

Whereas mentioning May makes it all too real

The country isn't in a mess though is it, that's just your bias view.

MaizieD pot kettle I think.

It's a reason for not being allowed to mention May ninny what's yours?

You can mention her whenever you like on any thread what's the problem with that or mentioning Corbyn. No rules on here that I know of, at the end of the day GNs only a granny forum.

I started this sub thread because Primrose said May couldn't be mentioned on this thread because it was about Corbyn. Thanks for saying it's OK ninny

Primrose didn't actually say May couldn't be mentiioned on this thread. Her words were:

'Save the May criticism for the govt thread - this is about Corbyn.'

Well literally that's true but I think the spirit of what she said was that May shouldn't be brought up on the thread Even if being very literal she was saying May shouldn't be criticised on this thread, that was still an odd thing to say. I think anyone can criticise TM on any thread they want and not just the government one and certainly they can criticise her on this thread.

Just putting the record straight as to what was actually said.

Wow, Ana. You said that without a grin.

Sometimes the spirit of what is said is more important than the actual words used in saying it - which is rather maybe where this thread started

I haven't noticed primrose telling Annie to save the Corbyn criticism on threads that are not about him.
But then she wouldn't, would she.

What a pity you don't know how to do emoticons, durhamjen - think f all the fun you could have!

I do know how. I just don't see the point.

MaizieD pot kettle I think.

I don't tell other posters what to do (well, I did tell someone to F O once and I asked Mair not to refer to Remainers as 'remoaners' when we were still being a bit polite to each other) nor do I make rules about what can, or cannot, be said on a thread.

OTH, it really pees me off when someone derails a thread by telling posters what they can or cannot say, or by moaning about being bullied, and a whole load of other posters leap in to follow them, like a pack of hounds in full cry. It seems so childish. If two posters want to have a niggle at each other I think we should just let them get on with it. No need for mass action...

The OP asks what do you expect if someone says "I will deal with it".

The general synopsis in most dictionaries is :-

'To take ' action ' in order to achieve something or in order to solve a problem'.

If our passports were in need of renewing and my husband said " I will deal with it" I expect him to renew them. If a teacher was telling parents of a bullied child " I will deal with it " I would expect that teacher to take action and do as they said they would. I expect that action will be taken by the person who said it because they are making a commitment, a promise, a pledge and if they did not 'deal with it" I would be more than a little annoyed.

In the particular case of Corbyn and his statement over the 'historic tuition fees' debacle using his words "I will deal with it" he was at the time given a lot of media coverage and at that time both left and right media outlets viewed his words as going to take action / a vow, that is clearly evident in the headlines at that time. The evidence for that is clearly available. I use the words 'at that time' because obviously there has been a change in peoples mindset and media coverage.

At no time prior to the General Election did the question be asked of Corbyn if his words could not be taken seriously , the mindset was Corbyn is a man of honour / Corbyn will do as he says 'Deal with it'.

Fast forward and John McDonnell declared it was never a promise, even Labour MP's were doing the rounds saying it was going to be dealt with as their leader had said, Mc Donnell said it was only an 'ASPIRATION'.

It is true to say it was NOT in the Labour Manifesto, Corbyn did however make a strong headwind prior to the general Election with favourable coverage which Labour capitalised on , especially with the younger voters. Is he a liar, no. Can Corbyn be accused of a U Turn/ Back Pedaling , yes to some no to others.

Of course opinions will vary but to me it all boils down to it depending on whether or not you/we/I as individuals would say 'I will deal with it" and see that as a personal 'principal ' to abide by or say it believing it has no influence on our actions to the person we said it to.

I think " I will deal with it " when said by a politician is about as vacuous a statement as " Lessons will be learnt ".

For heavens sake the truth is there have been posts on Tory threads that tell posters to basically bugger off if Corbyn is mentioned and there are are posts on Corbyn threads that basically tell posters to basically bugger off if May is mentioned.

There sure as hell are posters who write crap making out they are some kind of benevolent, kind hearted soul who are nothing but.

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