I Will Deal With It

Of course they can, primrose. I am just pointing out to YOU where you are wrong, or trying to mislead.
Have you not noticed that many people do not look at links?
Including you?

You need to talk to quite a few other people who've got it wrong too. Take a look at Twitter!
I think Vince Cable has called on JC to apologise for breaking a pledge. He got it wrong too.

No one understood that 'deal with it' means ..... what exactly?

So there are people on Twitter and Vince Cable who are happy to misrepresent Jeremy Corbyn [shock horror].

Now you wouldn't have expected that would you.

I mean, 130 retweets and comments like 'Is he also diabetic'
It's really not just me who thought he meant something else.

twitter.com/MattChorley/status/889046925147869184

I don't think your ability to read more into a sentence or two than is actually written on the page would stand up to scrutiny in a court of law Primrose.

It's a good job that dj did read those links, otherwise people might have believed that what you were saying was a fact.

And no amount of tweets from equally careless readers (or believers in hearsay) will turn what Corbyn actually said into what they would like him to have said.

Primrose65 Is it just Corbyn you object to or his anti-austerity policies, and which politicians do you admire for their "straight talking, honest politics"?

If Vince Cable really has called on Jeremy Corbyn to apologise for breaking a pledge then all his years in politics have failed to give him an understanding of how government works. I'm afraid it is essential to win an election before it is possible to keep a pledge in the manifesto Primrose. I sincerely hope that Vince Cable knows that by now.

But then Vince knows a lot about broken pledges on this very matter doesn't he?

Vince Cable @vincecable
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23 Jul

#Labour has backtracked on #StudentDebt . Yet #LibDems still attacked for breaking pledge in 2010. .@nick_clegg apologised. Your turn Jeremy

What Vince Cable actually tweeted.

It's not Vince Cable who lacks understanding. It's *Primrose' having comprehension difficulties...

There are none so deaf as those who will not hear.

trisher I couldn't agree more.

I'm enjoying the kinder, gentler politics here. Keep throwing insults my way. I'll deal with it

It isn't an insult. If you can't read and understand something it is just a fact. Read and argue about what has been said by all means but don't make stuff up and expect to have a reasonable argument about it.

Or... maybe you're predisposed to interpret his comments in a particular way?

If you can find a quote saying he would write off all student debt please post it and we can discuss. As it is numerous sources have been quoted and none have said this. I have said the student debt will have to be dealt with and at least he is being honest and talking about it. Others are keeping quiet whilst they try to hatch some nefarious plan that will make them look less incompetent, deal with the problem they created and convince the public that it wasn't their fault in the first place. (Will they blame the bankers, the Labour Party -interesting to see- bet they won't say 'we got it wrong")

So Jeremy Corbyn, promised in the Labour Manifesto, to end tuition fees. He later said in an interview that the level of existing student debt was unfair and in a low key aside said that he "would deal with it". I interpreted that as meaning if Labour was elected they would look into the problem of student debt. There was no formal pledge or manifesto promise to wipe out the debt. As labour is not in government, they can't have broken any pledges anyway. They still intend to end tuition fees if they are elected.
Meanwhile, the Tories were (just about) re-elected and proceeded to abandon numerous pledges from their Manifesto. Dementia tax and winter fuel allowance being means tested come to mind. Look at the Tory manifesto!

You're right that this is all academic really, but most people don't read the manifesto. They rely, rightly or wrongly, on other sources of information. That's why JC did interviews with magazines like NME. To reach younger people.

www.nme.com/news/jeremy-corbyn-will-deal-already-burdened-student-debt-2082478

Saying it was not in the manifesto is not the same as explaining what 'I will deal with it' means.

I believe Theresa May's government have also abandoned the grammar school pledge, the promise for a vote in Parliament to allow fox-hunting again, and the Boundary review. This is because they didn't get a clear mandate in the election. They promised they would reduce immigration but seem to have accepted that they will not be able to achieve their targets (as they are having to soften up on Brexit). This is in addition to abandoning the Dementia tax and means testing winter fuel allowance which they gave up on even before the election.
Manifesto pledges are frequently not kept. But Corbyn's "I will deal with it" was NEVER a manifesto pledge. Hypocritical of Conservatives to even mention it!

Well it doesn't mean I will write it all off, although interestingly there may be very little choice about this as time runs out on collecting the money. But you won't want to hear that, it is much too contentious a thing to talk about.

We all know now what it didn't mean. Plenty of posters have said it didn't mean this or that.
No one seems to be able to say what he did mean though.

Because it is such a complicated problem and he hasn't all the details, he isn't in government and when he is things may have changed and the actions he might take now might not be appropriate then. Do you not understand it's a mess and it needs dealing with but it needs proper assessment and time to consider the options to give a fair and acceptable solution?

That's really not the question. Of course, we can all see problems. The issue here is what did JC mean when he said 'I'll deal with it'. You said I can't read and I don't understand because I have interpreted this statement in one way, which I've been happy to share. What does it mean to you? I'm bored with being insulted. I'm still waiting to be educated.

primrose, I for one have already proposed at least 3 possible actions which would come under 'I'll deal with it'.

I had noticed that * devongirl*, I should have said.
There's video now of the shadow justice minister Imran Hussain saying that "every existing student will have all their debts wiped off."
It's up on Youtube.
I still think that's what he meant.