I Will Deal With It

vampirequeen Thank you for posting exactly what Corbyn said - I hadn't seen the full text and what he said confirmed what some of us thought his "deal with it" meant.

Blimey, can't we have even one Labour-bashing thread?

(Don't bother answering, I know politics is deadly serious...)

I don't mind a Labour-bashing thread as long as the 'facts' being used to bash Labour are actually true.

So, he will 'deal with it' by giving them longer to pay up! Hardly dealing with it eh?

Should be trisher ( about expanding the mind) a lot seem to use Uni to go on a three year drinking binge.
In any case, the mind expanding part of Uni is hardly worth a huge debt.
It all needs rethinking, and if the young people themselves , plus their teachers/advisors,/parents really thought about it, a lot of them would not go at all.

When we discussed the dropping of debts in the election thread, not one Corbyn fan said it wasn't true, it was defended along with the free school meals for every child and free music kessins for every child, why defend it if it wasn't thought to be true ? All the Corbynites are doing now is repeating the denials he made at the weekend .

Is it possible to find that thread and if so, how please ?

I agree Eloethan, it was certainly good to see what was actually said. I find it much easier to have an opinion on that and I feel happy to follow this as every party looks at Student Loans, either to extend them (as is happening this year) or deal with them in a different way.

Do you know anyone currently or even recently at university RaR?

This is one of the most ridiculous threads I have ever seen on gransnet. To summarise: Jeremy Corbyn said the Labour Party would abolish tuition fees for students starting university in 2017/18. This was included in the Labour Party manifesto. He also commented that students with large existing debts would be disadvantaged when compared to those who had attended university before or after them. He said he would look at ways of ameliorating those debts. As the Labour Party did not win the election, can someone please explain to me how both those promises, according to some posters, have now been revealed as lies?

My thoughts exactly, nightowl

rar do I sense a little of the green eyed monster in your post?

Facts are always good. So looking back in the press, it's interesting to see how they interpreted his statements at the time he made them.

Labour supporting press

www.thecanary.co/2017/06/01/theresa-mays-worst-nightmare-just-came-true-corbyn-offers-voters-winning-proposition/

Local press

www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/no-u-turn-over-huge-issue-128226/

Political press

www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/86362/jeremy-corbyn-labour-could-write

London newspapers editied by ex Tory chancellors press

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-could-write-off-student-debt-for-graduates-who-paid-9000-a3554841.html

Looks like everyone got it wrong at the time and no one in the Labour party bothered to correct them. That's a first!

Certainly not trisher and for those students today who apply themselves and go on to get good degrees ( with a bit of partying along the way) good on them.
There are those who seem to be striving for liver cirrhosis sadly, who waste their time, leave with a poor degree and spend years repaying back the money.My own
Nephew was one of them.

If you read the articles, they didn't get it wrong. Some of the headlines are misleading, but all the articles are correct; he didn't say he would get rid of student debt.

That's very kind of you, primrose, to put those links up.

I think you should read the articles. Some actually say
pledges to scrap tuition fees and to write off debts

not just imply it with headlines.

The whole country got it wrong. You have to ask why Labour were so bad at communicating.

I can't see anywhere in your links that Jeremy Corbyn was quoted as saying he would write off existing debts Primrose.

I have just read all the articles. They said that he did not say he pledged to write off debts.
Reread them.

"There is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden.

I don’t have the simple answer for it at this stage – I don’t think anybody would expect me to, because this election was called unexpectedly, we had two weeks to prepare all of this – but I’m very well aware of that problem."
From the Canary link.

"But asked whether he could try to clear the £30bn backlog of student debt since the higher fees were introduced, the Labour leader said he would like to.

“Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I'm looking at ways we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing the debt burden,” he told the NME.

But he added: “I don't have the simple answer for it at this stage. I don't think anybody would expect me to, because this election was called unexpectedly.
“We had two weeks to prepare all of this – but I'm very well aware of that problem.

“And I don't see why those that had the historical misfortune to be at university during the £9,000 period should be burdened excessively compared to those that went before or those that come after. I will deal with it.” "

Politicshome link.

"The Labour leader used an interview with NME magazine to say he did not believe people should be punished for having the “historical misfortune” of going to university when it was more expensive.

His party’s manifesto has already promised the abolition of tuition fees from as early as this year – if Labour wins the election.

But in a cover interview for the well-known music magazine, he said: “First of all, we want to get rid of student fees altogether." "

Evening Standard link.

Hit, nail, head, Nightowl. Ridiculous indeed.

The Kentonline link had those words, but the article only had that line. The rest of it was about Damien Green trying to say the Tories would do something to help the students, and his spokesman saying he didn't mean that.

Everyone can read the articles dj.

People know when something is implied. And they know 'straight talking, honest politics'

Thank you GG, and MamaCaz. It's like a parallel universe on here at times. I sometimes wonder if I've fallen down the rabbit hole.

On what do you base your last statement Primrose? Where has Jeremy Corbyn lied on this particular matter?

nightowl I don't need to justify my opinion! Maybe he just can't communicate in a straight and honest way to ordinary people like me?