Does anyone else think Trump has a point?

Not many left to sack.
I hope this man is right, and trump himself leaves soon - sacks himself.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/art-of-the-deal-donald-trump-resign-us-president-predict-tony-schwartz-a7898526.html

Hmm does that mean Spence would take over?

Do you mean Pence?
Hope not.

Have you seen that trump is going to be impeached now?
Because of what he said about Charlotteville?

Removing – not destroying – public statues is not rewriting history. I don't know how the rest of you approached the subject, but although I wandered around London and other cities in the UK looking at statues of kings, queens, generals, prime ministers, etc., most of my learning was done at school. The statues of Confederate heroes were mostly erected in the twentieth century, quite a while after the end of the Civil War, and have become rallying points for groups that belong to what is now called the Alt-Right (whatever the hell that is supposed to mean). Transferring these statues to museums and, therefore, putting them in their proper context, or to Confederate cemeteries seems wholly appropriate to me.

When is somebody going to break it to Trump that being POTUS is not just another episode of The Apprentice?
(Honestly, I'd even rather see Alan Sugar in The White House)

illtellhim, see after our posts the subject got swiftly changed!!!
- so girly

ammaz I would have happily discussed your posts but they didn't make sense.

Bannon is threatening to tell all.

Pass the popcorn please

illtellhim

Well said AmMaz, I was in 2 minds about pointing out to people that it wasn't 'righteous violence' that won the west 2 wold wars it was us going over and kicking the sh*t out of them

I don't think you understand the concept of righteous violence as your illustration is an example of what it is!

People engage in violence when it is the morally right thing to do - in the case of WWI & II it was standing up to an aggressor after failing to negotiate peace. To have done nothing wasn't an option.

AmMaz I didn't see what the deleted post said but only saw the response about it not being righteous violence that won WWI and WWII but "going over there and kicking the shit out of them". I wasn't quite sure what was meant by that remark - was it support for using the same tactics with Trump or something else? Either way, the point being made wasn't very clear and that is perhaps why people didn't respond.

Hello absent - it's nice to hear from you. I agree with your opinion.

And deleted my post! I rest my case! Freedom of speech Gransnetters?

My post was as serious as it gets: I believe that PC, insidious as it is, is being hijacked for sanctimonious virtue signalling, policing thought and speech til we 'get our minds right'.

This typical girly putting me on the naughty step/sending me to Coventry (deleting me ) is not going to change my mind is it? It confirms my opinion about what's going on!

Look at the bile that has gushed forth on this site against Trump (which for all you know I might agree with) - this evidently has been deemed acceptable. But as soon as I question the 'positioning' of the poster's expressed opinions - positioning being critical info to consider - it's not acceptable because Gransnet editor either doesn't understand and/or doesnt like the sound of it!

Here's the thing:
1) I don't want to belong to that kind of club: incrowd/outcrowd

2) I wasn't the only poster who felt as I did (a 'well said' from illtellhim) - so...

3)...you don't know or care who you're alienating?

This typical girly putting me on the naughty step/sending me to Coventry (deleting me grin) is not going to change my mind is it? It confirms my opinion about what's going on!

No, your post was a personal attack on me. That is why it has been deleted.

I wasn't the only poster who felt as I did (a 'well said' from illtellhim) - so...

I have answered the 'well said' post above - not sure if you've read it.

I'm not against discussion but you need to be courteous about it and respect other people's point of view... pretty much what you are asking for yourself really. You seem to have a grudge against me personally but I'm not sure why. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

OK, since compiling my last post I have seen subsequent posts which do suggest that my (deleted) post was not understood. As I thought. So the understanding of it was compiled by funnelling it through a particular frame of reference, the end point of which afforded pressing the button on it (room 101?) .

Can't do much about that because a) not enough time and b) no will to understand me.

Please consider the possibility that whilst you did not understand my post Oriel I might have understood yours.

Once again, I find your last post completely incomprehensible AmMaz.

I understood your post perfectly AmMaz - it was patently clear what you meant. That is why I reported it and why it was subsequently removed.

I rather like Schwarzenegger jabs at Trump: ‘There are not two sides to bigotry’.

We need to understand that no child is born with prejudices because of the colour of their skin. The poison and bigotry in societies creates so many of the problems and prejudices we face today. That we must continue to tackle and try to eliminate, however, we need to note we even see such views expressed here on our own Gransnet.com from time to time, we are not even squeaky clean in the way we express our own prejudices. I include myself in that criticism.
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This is from trump's arts and humanities committee in the Whitehouse, resigning because of his stance on Charlottesville.

Is there anyone left?

Only Pence - but he was elected the same way as trump, so can't be sacked.

Pity that Farage never made it onto the Trump payroll as I might have had the pleasure of seeing him sacked...

Tegan

And me

These statues were installed at least fifty years after the Civil War. They were installed during the Jim Crowe era in order to, in the main part, intimidate black people. They aren't contemporary historical monuments. Would anyone accept a statue of Hitler being erected 50 years after WW2?