How to lose your staff in 4 easy lessons when you are the Brexit secretary

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/mitch-benn-winning-1-5196518

We are not remoaners any more. We are winning.
Brexiteers moan all the time.

www.theguardian.com/business/2017/sep/19/lloyds-of-london-dublin-brexit-xl-group-eu-single-market

How to lose the banks.

www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-08-09/britain-s-not-so-sweet-options-for-eu-trade-deal-quicktake-q-a

This is brilliant. We could end up with the same deal as Turkey.
Remind me why some people voted for Brexit. It was because they feared Turkey being part of the EU, wasn't it?

Stop borrowing troubles and believing that other governments are more harmonious than ours.

Yes annie more Tory bashing, but I could cheerfully throw the lot of them out. I'm absolutely fed up with pretty much every politician and every party at at the moment.

I'm also fed up of the Brexit bashers, and that's from a Remainer!

Brexit bashing.....

More importantly could you tell us how the last Labour Government managed to leave the coffers empty on its departure!! We have had to pay a very high price for this, much higher than Davis losing his staff!!

durhamjen
I would like to think that the vast majority of people who voted to leave knew that Turkey never was, never is, going to join the eu.

Petra...unfortunately I think they believed they would and all the other rubbish that was spouted by the Brexiteers about how great the UK would be, how we'd all have money trees in our back gardens, that the streets of each city would be paved with gold etc...

I can't wait for Brexit, it will be so great to free of the EU shackles and other countries will see our success and realise they could be better off too. Juncker et al are behaving like spoiled schoolboys who want to ruin everyone else's party because they weren't invited. They are NOT our friends and I certainly don't want them to rule us.

And what 'shackles' would those be, quizqueen?

Do explain them to us because I am still at a loss to understand how an institution in which we have had a leading role for a number of decades and have initiated much of its current legislation has 'shackled' us.

Whitewave Oh dear, poor poor Dave and spouse
What was 'daft' about the referendum?
It was the wish of the majority of British people that we leave the EU.
To dither what might is' daft' Good job we Brits did not dither what might 1939..
Old enough to have been aware of my life pre common market and the state we are in now I would say those who pushed us into that which is now and has been for some time, and long before the referendum, a mess have every need to feel broken
Guilt more like it.

It was the wish of the majority of British people that we leave the EU.

No it wasn't. It was the 'wish' of the majority of the British people who voted. And their reasons for voting Leave were so diverse that it proved quite difficult to determine what exactly they really wanted. For a start, we know that many voted in protest against the current tory government; really nothing to do with the EU...

I am posting and reading very little at the moment as I am completely at a loss and feel utterly shattered at the state of this government. It is no secret of course that I could never vote Tory, but I do expect the government of whatever colour to have the competence, integrity and intelligence to lead this country towards a solid future. Nothing I see gives me the confidence that this is like to happen.

The latest thing I have read which fills me with despondancy is the report that the Leave chief Dominic Cummings has stated that the triggering of A50 is an historic unforgivable blunder.

Why is no one listening why are we heading as a result for the a prolonged and unnecessary period of economic decline and difficulties? I have a friend who works London in a department in the CS who says that there are rumours afoot that ration books are being considered.

God almighty what is the matter with this country?

The reasons that people voted for Brexit are neither here nor there. The fact is, they voted for it. You could equally argue that Remainers voted for other reasons other than the fact they actively wanted to be part of the EEC. It's a red herring.
Papers get good sales from scaremongering and both sides are working hard to make sure we are all terrified no matter which side we are on.
For my part, I think the speeches about a Federal Europe from the European Elite are what terrifies me about Europe, not the people, not the trade agreements, immigration or any of the other arguments. Democracy, even a poor one, is better than dictatorship from a few jumped up Eurocrats.

So ican having voted presumably to leave, the ball is now in your court and all other leave voters.

How do we deal with the shortage of doctors, nurses, farm workers, entertainment staff, etc?
How do we deal with the farm subsidies, science funding, the huge expense of customs and excise infrastructure?

How do we deal and avert the potential shortage of food stuffs, medicines, machine/car parts?

By voting leave you and other leave voters have taken responsibility for this state of affairs

^ Democracy, even a poor one, is better than dictatorship from a few jumped up Eurocrats.^

As we are on the verge of loosing our 'democracy' through May's 'Repeal Bill' I find that a deeply ironic statement.

You could equally argue that Remainers voted for other reasons other than the fact they actively wanted to be part of the EEC. It's a red herring.

Remainers voted Remain because they wanted to stay in the EU. What other reason could they possibly have had?
Whereas voting Leave in protest against the tory government had nothing whatsoever to do with the EU. Big difference in my opinion.

I certainly didn't vote Leave as a protest against the Tories. I visited the EU building in Brussels in 1988, Great Britain was considered unimportant, according to the Danish gentleman who gave us a film show & lecture, we didn't produce anything either unlike the other EU members. All the EU wanted from us was our contribution, certainly not an important member as David Cameron learned. The sooner we free ourselves from the EU the better.

Have you been bearing a grudge against the EU all that time, Legs? Because a Danish guy didn't think the UK was the brightest star in the firmament? And what didn't we produce? We only managed to make a huge amount of money out of financial services to the EU, including key euro transactions when we weren't even part of the eurozone.

David Cameron got far more from the EU than the media and the Leavers would have us believe but hey, what does honest reporting matter?

Well, let's see how 'important' we are to the rest of the world when it comes to making money out of them. So far they haven't been falling over themselves to do deals with us...

Your Danish gentleman was wrong. Look at all the treaties and see the part the UK played in formulating them. It is enormous. There are hardly any instances where we disagreed and where we did so we simply opted out.

Cameron is/was like all the current Tory ministers incompetent. You cannot assume anything from his failures.

May's government is obviously in disarray if the Foreign Secretary (no less) is writing articles in the press which are an attempt to torpedo her speech in Florence this week. Johnson has become the wrong kind of joke and is now very unlikely to succeed in becoming Leader. You can only play the comedy card for so long. And the lying through your teeth about £350 million a week card. As for the Brexit negotiations, there is not plenty of time to get things sorted. There is a long list of complex issues to be resolved and the team have not nailed anything down as yet - the Tory party are still arguing about them. The three key issues - cost, expat rights and the Irish border would still seem to be a long way from settled (does the Cabinet know what they are aiming to get agreed - it appears not). Whatever is "agreed" about Ireland has to get the agreement of the Irish government at the end of the process (along with the other 27) or the whole shebang is dead in the water. Cameron was an utter fool to call another referendum after nearly losing Scotland from the Union. So if he's feeling remorseful, so he damn well should.

I am sick of being told, I did not know what I was voting for, I did. I did not want a larger Europe costing us even more money. I did not vote for The Common Market last time as I believed it would not stop there.

As for quoting The Guardian I will say nothing about that one.

What is Germany going to do when they don't allow us to trade with them freely. Everything in my kitchen is German, not that I had any choice. Even my vacuum cleaners are made in Germany. This is going to be a great loss to them if they don't allow us to trade.

The Remainers will pick holes in everything because they lost the vote and don't like it.

You'll still be able to buy them. They'll just cost more.
Of course they want us to trade. They will charge 10% taxes on cars and 5% on any other goods.
Is that what you voted for? Your kitchen equipment to cost more?
How strange.