How to lose your staff in 4 easy lessons when you are the Brexit secretary

We are not Germany's only customer. We are a country of 60 million. The EU represents 550million potential customers to the UK. You don't have to be very clever to work that one out.

Our payments to the EU represented less than 1% of out GDP.

Brexiters are so good at lying, in fact they've resurrected the biggest lie of all this week with the £350million. They even admitted it was a lie last year.

What fools they take us for.

The rest of the world is far bigger than the EU ww if you're only interested in size of the market.
As far as the £350 million 'lie' is concerned, I'm sure you understand the difference between the UK choosing to spend £x million on, for example, farming subsidies and the EU choosing to spend that money. I totally understand the difference, so to me, it's not a lie, it's a decision.

Marieeliz
Exactly!!
We are the biggest German car importer in the world
It is around fifth of the total number the industry exports worldwide.
Or, ( 2016) figures: 810,000 cars. Who should be worried, us or them.

I have noticed that there's not been one positive comment on Junckers speech, that was the one where he spoke about his dream of a federal Europe.
That would be the federal Europe that remainers denied was ever going to happen, along with the European army.
If by some bizarre twist we didn't leave: how would some GNs feel about their GC being called up, because that's going to come, somewhere down the line.

We will still import German cars, not sure of your point.

Given of course we have all the necessary border checks in place.

As for a Federal Europe. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that we opted out entirely of the first tranche, and would do again, if we choose to do so at a later date.

That is simple scaremongering.

As for the £350m. The Brexiters lied, you may choose to believe what you wish. I choose to believe facts, and they tell me that it was a lie.

My Danish grandson could be called up anyway, in three years time.
My Norwegian and Spanish grandchildren will not.
I doubt whether there would be call-up even if there were a federal Europe. Every country manages to get enough people willing to join their forces.
Why do you imagine there would be call-up?

Yet another bit of Brexit scaremongering.

The rest of the world is far bigger than the EU ww if you're only interested in size of the market.

But, unfortunately:

www.standard.co.uk/business/anthony-hilton-brexit-wouldnt-ease-trade-nightmare-a3235071.html

medium.com/@SamuelMarcLowe/can-global-britain-defy-gravity-18df4e9f4f7f

Just a couple of articles. There are, of course, more.

We have even less influence than we thought.
Nobody but Boris turned up to listen to May's speech.
How embarrassing.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-united-nations-donald-trump-new-york-speech-a7958326.html

Even the BBC is beginning to ask serious questions over our ports and customs.

Chris Cook of Newsnight, is of the opinion that the government is definitely not preparing for a no deal scenario, as if it was the diggers etc would be busy in Dover as we speak.

It's worse than May, Davis and Johnson losing their staff.

www.theguardian.com/society/2017/sep/21/almost-10000-eu-health-workers-have-quit-the-nhs-since-brexit-vote

Sick of reading this thread! A couple of remoaners spouting on incessantly about how great the EU is and how bad for us when we leave. Put a sock in it!

If you are sick of reading a thread, the answer is in your own hands, don't read it.

I must confess to feeling rather glad that we're making a Brexiter sick. It kind of compensates for all the sickness we've been feeling since 24th June 2017

Please keep on reading,Bambam

Or, even better, tell us why leaving the EU isn't as bad as we think it is. In practical terms please; we've already heard about the cake and the unicorns and putting the 'great' back into Britain.

Thanks for the links, durhamjen - most useful. I will ensure they are circulated to as many of my friends and family members as possible.

MaizieD
What happened on 24th June 2017 ?

Petra ? Was it Corbyn's birthday?

Who knew that so many people loved the EU?

And why?

Don't understand comments from Petra and Lemongrove, are they supposed to be funny?

Angry fingers, Petra.

And you know as well as I do which year I was meaning to write.

Who knew that so many people loved the EU?

And who knew there were so many f*ckwits around who hadn't given the EU a thought for year and years and then suddenly decided that it was the most evil institution ever created and that poverty and national humiliation was a small price to pay for being out of it.

https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/201709/medium-197877-interest-in-eu-since-1990.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/201709/medium-647108-britons-view-of-importance-of-eu-2006--2016.jpg

These are for all of you who are going to tell me that the awfulness of the EU has been preying on their minds daily from the minute we joined the EEC

You're in the tiny, tiny minority I'm afraid.

All I can say is "he who laughs last"

It was 2016 devongirl ?
Maizie fuckwits? You just can't help it can you.Constant insults to those who decided to vote to Leave say far more about you than anybody else.

Maybe a reaction to the constant 'you lost, get over it', which is getting tiresome.

Well, Tegan2 if calling others fuckwits is a reaction to hearing a different view to your own, who knows what a poster is really like, in fact, I dread to think.